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Subject: Re: Null Move and The Washington Post

Author: Andrew Platt

Date: 17:52:33 09/22/04

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On September 22, 2004 at 08:34:04, Stan Arts wrote:

>On September 22, 2004 at 07:53:37, Andrew Platt wrote:
>
>>Actually, more accurately a problem with null move and a position that appeared
>>in this week's Washington Post Chess column:
>>
>>[D] 3K4/8/2ppp3/2pkp3/2ppp3/8/4P3/3Q4 w - - 0 1
>>
>>The main thing to do is to wait for black to commit suicide, something that null
>>moves are very bad at doing! The solution is to make an active waiting move that
>>will position the Queen directly later:
>>
>>1. Qa1 d3 2. Qc3 e3 3. exd3 cxd3 4.Qxd3#
>>
>>However, Schola does not want to get this mate. I can run it as long as I like
>>and it still goes for the longer mate:
>>
>>1. Kd7 d3 2. e3 c3 3. Qb3+ c4 4. Qb4 c2 5. Qxd6#

>Maybe the first problem is doing nullmoves for black, even when he has no
>pieces? That seems very risky, just think of pawn-endgames where the kings

Thanks for this: This was the problem. Fixing this (I needed to add the current
piece count to the position and update it on make / unmake move) made Schola
find Qa1 in 1 millisecond and solve the mate in 3!

I thought that with verified null move I wouldn't need this check so perhaps I
still need to look further?

Andy.



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