Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: What is the best move? Played was 19) ... Qxf3?

Author: John Merlino

Date: 18:23:32 09/23/04

Go up one level in this thread


On September 23, 2004 at 21:10:07, Roy Brunjes wrote:

>On September 23, 2004 at 20:57:15, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
>>On September 23, 2004 at 20:16:05, Cliff Sears wrote:
>>
>>>The move played was Qxf3
>>>
>>>Analysis from "The World's Greatest Chess Games" says Rg4 is best. What does
>>>your engine say?
>>>
>>>[d] 1r2k1r1/pbppnp1p/1bn2P2/7q/Q7/B1PB1N2/P4PPP/3RR1K1 b - - 0 19
>>>
>>>[Event "GCG_003"]
>>>[Site "Berlin"]
>>>[Date "1852.??.??"]
>>>[Round "?"]
>>>[White "Anderssen, A."]
>>>[Black "Dufresne, J."]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[ECO "C52"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2600"]
>>>[BlackElo "2370"]
>>>[Annotator "Fritz 5.00 (5s)"]
>>>[PlyCount "47"]
>>>[EventDate "1852.??.??"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 e5 {Opening = C52 - Evans Gambit-Hauptvariante /Evans Gambit-main line}
>>>2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5 6. d4 exd4 7. O-O d3 8. Qb3 Qf6 {
>>>Exerts pressure on the isolated pawn} 9. e5 Qg6 10. Re1 Nge7 11. Ba3 $146 (11.
>>>Nbd2 O-O 12. Ne4 d2 13. Bxd2 d5 14. exd6 cxd6 15. Bd3 Qe6 16. Qc2 Qd7 17. Bf4
>>>Bc7 18. Rad1 Ng6 19. Bg3 d5 20. Nc5 Qd8 21. Bxg6 hxg6 22. Bh4 Bxh2+ 23. Kh1 Qd6
>>>24. Ne4 Qa3 25. Rxd5 Bc7 26. Qd2 Be6 27. Nf6+ Kh8 28. Rxe6 fxe6 29. Rd7 Rad8
>>>30. Qh6+ {1-0 Losev,D-Kadimova,I/Moscow op Russian Winter 1991/TD 91\03}) 11...
>>>b5 $15 (11... d5 $142 $5 12. exd6 cxd6 $17) 12. Qxb5 Rb8 13. Qa4 Bb6 14. Nbd2
>>>Bb7 15. Ne4 Qf5 (15... Nd4 16. Nfg5 Ne6 17. Bxd3 $11) 16. Bxd3 Qh5 (16... Nxe5
>>>$4 17. Nd6+ cxd6 18. Bxf5 $18) 17. Nf6+ $15 (17. Rab1 $142 $5 $11) 17... gxf6
>>>18. exf6 Rg8 19. Rad1 $4 $19 (19. Kf1 Rxg2 20. Kxg2 $19) 19... Qxf3 {
>>>Do you see the mate threat?} 20. Rxe7+ Nxe7 $4 (20... Kd8 21. Rxd7+ $1 Kc8 22.
>>>Rd8+ Kxd8 23. Be2+ Nd4 24. Bxf3 Bxf3 $14) 21. Qxd7+ $3 Kxd7 22. Bf5+ Ke8 23.
>>>Bd7+ Kf8 (23... Kd8 24. fxe7#) 24. Bxe7# 1-0
>>
>>I'll analyse this further....but Rg4 will stop the slaughter....Qh3! is also far
>>better than Qxf3??
>
>
>CM9000 custom personality says ...Bd4 is best with 0.00 eval after 10 mins on
>1.5 GHz Athlon XP.  Is that accurate?  Let the debates begin!
>
>Roy

Confirmed with CM9_SKR on an AMD 2500 -- Bd4 gets a -0.04 score in Black's
favor:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	-6.95	4766		19...Qxf3 20.Be4 Qxf2+ 21.Kh1 Ne5
					22.Bxb7 Rxb7
0:00	1/4	1.41	34811		19...Qxf3 20.Rxe7+ Kd8 21.Rxd7+
					Kc8 22.Rd8+ Kxd8 23.Be2+ Nd4 24.Bxf3
					Bxf3 25.cxd4 Bxd1 26.Qxd1
0:00	1/4	-0.90	35802		19...Rxg2+ 20.Kxg2 Ne5 21.Be4 Qg4+
					22.Kh1 Nxf3 23.fxe7 Nxe1 24.Rxe1
					Bxf2
0:00	1/4	-1.53	40425		19...Ne5 20.Rxe5 Rxg2+ 21.Kf1 Rxf2+
					22.Ke1 Qxf3 23.Rxe7+ Kf8
0:00	1/5	1.09	83607		19...Ne5 20.Rxe5 Rxg2+ 21.Kf1 Rxf2+
					22.Ke1 Bxf3 23.Rxh5 Bxh5 24.fxe7
					Bxd1 25.Kxd1 Rxh2
0:00	1/5	0.93	99920		19...Qxf3 20.Rxe7+ Kd8 21.Rxd7+
					Kc8 22.Rd8+ Kxd8 23.Be2+ Nd4 24.Bxf3
					Bxf3 25.Rxd4+ Bxd4 26.Qxd4+ Kc8
0:00	1/5	-0.40	136151		19...Rg4 20.Bc4 Qf5 21.Kf1 Rxc4
					22.Qxc4 Qxf6
0:00	1/5	-0.56	169638		19...Qh3 20.Bf1 Qf5 21.Bd3 Qxf6
					22.Bxh7
0:01	1/5	-0.59	201005		19...Rxg2+ 20.Kxg2 Ne5 21.Qxd7+
					Nxd7 22.Rxe7+ Kd8 23.Rxd7+ Kc8
					24.Be2
0:01	1/5	-0.99	256935		19...Bd4 20.Nxd4 Rxg2+ 21.Kxg2
					Nxd4+ 22.Re4 Bxe4+ 23.Bxe4
0:01	1/6	-0.32	366962		19...Bd4 20.cxd4 Qxf3 21.Be4 Rxg2+
					22.Kh1 Rxh2+ 23.Kxh2 Qxf2+ 24.Kh1
0:05	1/7	-0.17	1316881		19...Bd4 20.cxd4 Qxf3 21.Be4 Qxf6
					22.Rb1 Qxd4 23.Qxd4 Nxd4 24.Rxb7
					Rxb7 25.Bxb7
0:07	1/7	-0.20	1574857		19...Qh3 20.Bf1 Qf5 21.Bd3 Qxf6
					22.Bxh7 Rh8 23.Bxe7 Nxe7 24.Rxd7
					Rxh7 25.Rdxe7+ Kf8
0:16	1/8	-0.11	3770828		19...Qh3 20.Bf1 Qf5 21.Bd3 Qxf6
					22.Bxh7 Rh8 23.Qg4 d6
0:19	1/8	-0.37	4557537		19...Bd4 20.cxd4 Qxf3 21.Be4 Rxg2+
					22.Kh1 Rxh2+ 23.Kxh2 Qxf2+ 24.Kh1
					Qxf6 25.Qc2
0:34	1/9	-0.30	8657595		19...Bd4 20.cxd4 Qxf3 21.Be4 Rxg2+
					22.Kh1 Rxh2+ 23.Kxh2 Qxf2+ 24.Kh1
					Qxf6 25.Bg2 Qh4+ 26.Kg1 f5
1:22	1/10	-0.26	21540482	19...Bd4 20.cxd4 Qxf3 21.Be4 Rxg2+
					22.Kh1 Rxh2+ 23.Kxh2 Qxf2+ 24.Kh1
					Qxf6 25.Qc2 Kf8 26.Qh2 d6
4:35	1/11	-0.04	74470403	19...Bd4 20.Bf1 Bxf6 21.Qf4 Qa5
					22.Qxf6 Qxa3 23.Bc4 Kd8 24.Bxf7
					Rf8 25.Qg7

jm



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.