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Subject: Re: Tiger's results prove:learning is not important in enrique's tournament

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 14:58:11 01/09/99

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On January 09, 1999 at 06:02:21, blass uri wrote:

>
>On January 09, 1999 at 05:40:14, Thom Perry wrote:
>
>>On January 08, 1999 at 11:46:01, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I checked tiger's results and I found that the results were:
>>>
>>>8.5 out of 18 (first 2 games against every player with white and black)
>>>10 out of 18(games 3-4 against the same 9 opponents)
>>>10.5 out of 18(games 5-6 against the same 9 opponents)
>>>11.5 out of 18 (games 7-8 against the same 9 opponents)
>>>10 out of 18(the last 2 games with different colours against the same players)
>>>
>>>I do not see that tiger is getting less points when there are more games.
>>>
>>>Fritz532 tried to repeat with black an opening that it won but tiger refused to
>>>repeat the same game(It is probably not deterministic)
>>>
>>>Fritz532 won the first 2 games of the same opening with black but in the third
>>>game when fritz repeated the same opening tiger drew.
>>>
>>>Tiger won the last game against Fritz532 with white(Fritz did not try to use the
>>>same opening that tiger drew against it)
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Looks to me like Tiger is learning.  Like fine wine, it is getting better
>>with age.
>
>Christophe(The programmer of chesstiger) said that it has not a learning
>feature.
>
>Uri
>>>>>>>>>>>>.
I'm still not convinced of the usefullness of book learning.  I don't know how
many programs have "hash learning" like Nimzo99.  But with book learning, I
haven't seen an explanation of how it works so I can't put it down too much.
The thing is, with todays programs which have hundreds of thousands of book
moves which make up several thousand variations,  they can play a different
variation everyday for the next ten years and not repeat.  In that case what
good does it do to learn not to use a particular variation again?  I guess I'll
have to wait for Dr. Hyatt's paper to ICCA.
Jim Walker



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