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Subject: Re: Null move idea

Author: Vasik Rajlich

Date: 05:01:04 09/26/04

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On September 26, 2004 at 00:47:14, Sergei S. Markoff wrote:

>>I would be unsure about possibly returning incorrect score >= beta in the
>> first stage.
>
>Sometimes it happens because of the change of values of the root bounds. In a
>root we have (in classic scheme of course) exact score for the best move. Near
>the zugzwang positions happens one thing. Some move fails high because of
>null-move cutoff. And we doing re-search with more wide window. In this case the
>zugzwang will be avoided using method, inroduced by me.
>
>>will not work well with score <= beta logic, whatever beta may be.  Also depth
>>differences in nodes vastly affect the score, whether null move or not.
>
>The depth diffenences will be in most cases compensated by window width between
>null move score and best move score. Anyway the error will be only if a score
>delta is not in a bounds of this window + root aspiration window. Is it need to
>explain this? Is the case too often? We need experiments.

Keep in mind that most wrong null-move fail highs are due to the depth reduction
rather than zugzwang. Still - the idea might be useful to prevent null moves in
positions where the depth is needed.

Vas



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