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Subject: Artificial Intelligence Definition: must involve winning lost positions

Author: Oliver Y.

Date: 06:04:50 01/10/99


I have drawn a number of games against human masters, down a piece with little
or no compensation whatsoever.

Earlier posts about true sacrifices might be related to this topic, and I
apologize in the unlikely event that I am duplicating an old discussion.

I think current programs are particularly bad at having a chance at swindling to
save completely lost positions.

If there's any interest, I can post two games where I was down a piece,

a) I further sacked an exchange, so I'm down a rook; then I exchange my queen
for his 2 rooks and a knight..eventually I wind up with a mate in one using a
rook, bishop, and knight against his queen and bishop...which I miss in time
trouble.

b) I sack another piece for some pressure, all along I am dead lost, so this
game score would be an embarrassment to the FIDE 2250+ master to post...
He blunders, and I have a won position, which I promptly turn into a perpetual
mate due to time pressure.

Sorry, I guess I should just post the games already...but there's really no way
in the next 20 years you'll see programs finding effective swindles against
humans...

That would be a true sign of Artificial Intelligence, IMMHO.



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