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Subject: Re: Upgrade the CCC

Author: Rick Bischoff

Date: 05:58:15 09/29/04

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>i don't believe a word. to get an ISP for a place like CCC should cost very
>little money (a few 100 bucks a year at most, certainly not a few 1000 as it is
>now). perhaps steve can tell us how much bandwidth CCC needs.
>
>for examples, check this out: http://www.hostdirection.com/
>you get a host for 10$ a month these days, and if you need a lot of bandwidth it
>comes up to about 50$ per month. that's 600$ per year and steve is asking for
>about 10x as much...
>
>the ISP will provide you with the service you need, he will have a server which
>is well protected and up-to-date; so all these horror stories about replacing
>the motherboard or no electricity are no issue.
>
>the real issue is to find moderators who do the dirty work. but since these are
>not part of ICC today, i doubt there will be a problem with that.

Hi,

Steve has stated previously that the ISP only accounts for $590 a year, or
around $50 a month-- The remaining fees are employment expenses.

Also, most, if not all, home based broadband connections have clauses the
prohibit you from running a publicly available server -- they might not actively
police such a policy, but when they find a violation they are well within their
rights to pull the plug.

Shared ISPs do not provide support for any software system the user installs,
unless such a system is advertised as a feature of the ISP.  Thus, you will
still have to pay someone to support the system in case of failure.

So, while I believe that (maybe) having a better system would reduce support
expense in the long term, it will do nothing to offset any ISP or short-term
support costs.



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