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Subject: Re: Pro Deo 1.0 - testseries

Author: David Dahlem

Date: 10:03:43 10/02/04

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On October 02, 2004 at 12:55:29, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On October 02, 2004 at 11:10:51, David Dahlem wrote:
>
>>On October 02, 2004 at 04:59:04, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On October 01, 2004 at 12:49:21, ThatsIt wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi !
>>>>
>>>>The last few weeks i have made some tests with ProDeo.
>>>>First with the defaults (Sep, 04) after them with my own creations.
>>>>
>>>>The results until now:
>>>>[played with 40moves/20min.+ 40moves/20min. + ... / 64MB HTs /
>>>> without any TBs / without pb / 20 startpositions = 40 games per match
>>>> on a celeron 2ghz]
>>>>
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (default) vs Shredder 8      09.0 - 31.0  (+ 4 =10 -26)
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2)     vs Shredder 8      16.5 - 23.5  (+ 9 =15 -16)
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2a)    vs Shredder 8      20.0 - 20.0  (+14 =12 -14)
>>>>
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (default) vs Junior 8        17.0 - 23.0  (+11 =12 -17)
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2)     vs Junior 8        17.0 - 23.0  (+11 =12 -17)
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2a)    vs Junior 8        still running
>>>>
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (default) vs Hiarcs 9        13.5 - 26.5  (+ 7 =13 -20)
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2)     vs Hiarcs 9        15.0 - 25.0  (+ 8 =14 -18)
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2a)    vs Hiarcs 9        follow soon
>>>>
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (default) vs Fritz 8.0.0.26  14.5 - 25.5  (+ 5 =19 -16)
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2)     vs Fritz 8.0.0.26  follow soon
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2a)    vs Fritz 8.0.0.26  follow soon
>>>>
>>>>Total:
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (default)    54.0 aus 160  (33.75%)
>>>>Pro Dep 1.0 (GS2)        48.5 aus 120  (40.41%)
>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2a)       20.0 aus  40  (50.00%)
>>>>
>>>>Changes in comparison to the default (Sep, 2004)
>>>>GS2:
>>>>[Bishop Value = 102] [Bishop Pair = 102] [Mobility = 120]
>>>>
>>>>GS2a:
>>>>this will be told after the games.
>>>>
>>>>The games, the startpositions, more details and other stuff can be found under:
>>>>http://www.pcschach.de
>>>>
>>>>Best
>>>>Thats It
>>>>(Gerhard Sonnabend / Stuttgart / Germany)
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Gerhard,
>>>
>>>Nice work. Just one remark (question), I do hope you have turned off "position
>>>learning". In this type of testing (running matches from the same positions)
>>>when position learning is on the learning algorithm may have played a dominant
>>>role and you perhaps are wasting your valuable time because you are actually
>>>testing the learning mainly. This because I have noticed that PD's position
>>>learning algorithm is really good.
>>>
>>>If not then the results look indeed promising and encouraging.
>>>
>>>Keep up the good work.
>>>
>>>My best,
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>Hi Ed
>>
>>I realize this may not be possible, but a good idea for a future version of
>>ProDeo would be for each personality to have it's own learning files. :-)
>>
>>Regards
>>Dave
>
>
>Hi Dave,
>
>That would be perfect, but imagine the disk pollution. But now that you made me
>think about it what looks acceptable is something like this:
>
>[Position Learner = on]                 * off|on
>[Position Learner file = teach_me.lrn]  * --> new <--
>
>or
>
>[Personality = whoops.eng]              * just kidding
>[Position Learner = on]                 * off|on
>[Position Learner file = on]            * off|on
>
>In this case when [Position Learner file = on] is set learned data will be
>stored in the file whoops.lrn
>
>I will think about it.
>
>My best,
>
>Ed

Hi Ed

Good ideas! And disk pollution wouldn't be a problem for me. What about book
learning, could it work in the same manner?

Regards
Dave



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