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Subject: Re: Pro Deo 1.0 - testseries

Author: David Dahlem

Date: 12:37:02 10/02/04

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On October 02, 2004 at 15:08:51, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On October 02, 2004 at 13:03:43, David Dahlem wrote:
>
>>On October 02, 2004 at 12:55:29, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On October 02, 2004 at 11:10:51, David Dahlem wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 02, 2004 at 04:59:04, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 01, 2004 at 12:49:21, ThatsIt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The last few weeks i have made some tests with ProDeo.
>>>>>>First with the defaults (Sep, 04) after them with my own creations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The results until now:
>>>>>>[played with 40moves/20min.+ 40moves/20min. + ... / 64MB HTs /
>>>>>> without any TBs / without pb / 20 startpositions = 40 games per match
>>>>>> on a celeron 2ghz]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (default) vs Shredder 8      09.0 - 31.0  (+ 4 =10 -26)
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2)     vs Shredder 8      16.5 - 23.5  (+ 9 =15 -16)
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2a)    vs Shredder 8      20.0 - 20.0  (+14 =12 -14)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (default) vs Junior 8        17.0 - 23.0  (+11 =12 -17)
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2)     vs Junior 8        17.0 - 23.0  (+11 =12 -17)
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2a)    vs Junior 8        still running
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (default) vs Hiarcs 9        13.5 - 26.5  (+ 7 =13 -20)
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2)     vs Hiarcs 9        15.0 - 25.0  (+ 8 =14 -18)
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2a)    vs Hiarcs 9        follow soon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (default) vs Fritz 8.0.0.26  14.5 - 25.5  (+ 5 =19 -16)
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2)     vs Fritz 8.0.0.26  follow soon
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2a)    vs Fritz 8.0.0.26  follow soon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Total:
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (default)    54.0 aus 160  (33.75%)
>>>>>>Pro Dep 1.0 (GS2)        48.5 aus 120  (40.41%)
>>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 (GS2a)       20.0 aus  40  (50.00%)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Changes in comparison to the default (Sep, 2004)
>>>>>>GS2:
>>>>>>[Bishop Value = 102] [Bishop Pair = 102] [Mobility = 120]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>GS2a:
>>>>>>this will be told after the games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The games, the startpositions, more details and other stuff can be found under:
>>>>>>http://www.pcschach.de
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Best
>>>>>>Thats It
>>>>>>(Gerhard Sonnabend / Stuttgart / Germany)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Gerhard,
>>>>>
>>>>>Nice work. Just one remark (question), I do hope you have turned off "position
>>>>>learning". In this type of testing (running matches from the same positions)
>>>>>when position learning is on the learning algorithm may have played a dominant
>>>>>role and you perhaps are wasting your valuable time because you are actually
>>>>>testing the learning mainly. This because I have noticed that PD's position
>>>>>learning algorithm is really good.
>>>>>
>>>>>If not then the results look indeed promising and encouraging.
>>>>>
>>>>>Keep up the good work.
>>>>>
>>>>>My best,
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>Hi Ed
>>>>
>>>>I realize this may not be possible, but a good idea for a future version of
>>>>ProDeo would be for each personality to have it's own learning files. :-)
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Dave,
>>>
>>>That would be perfect, but imagine the disk pollution. But now that you made me
>>>think about it what looks acceptable is something like this:
>>>
>>>[Position Learner = on]                 * off|on
>>>[Position Learner file = teach_me.lrn]  * --> new <--
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>[Personality = whoops.eng]              * just kidding
>>>[Position Learner = on]                 * off|on
>>>[Position Learner file = on]            * off|on
>>>
>>>In this case when [Position Learner file = on] is set learned data will be
>>>stored in the file whoops.lrn
>>>
>>>I will think about it.
>>>
>>>My best,
>>>
>>>Ed
>
>>Hi Ed
>>
>>Good ideas! And disk pollution wouldn't be a problem for me. What about book
>>learning, could it work in the same manner?
>
>Everything is possible, but book-learning would cost 1 MB per learning file.
>
>My best,
>
>Ed

Ok, since position learning is really good in ProDeo, you must implement each
personalitys own learning files, immediately. :-))

Regards
Dave



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