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Subject: Re: Testposition, Ferret's stunning move 43.e5!.

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 20:38:03 10/04/04

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On October 04, 2004 at 16:51:50, Eelco de Groot wrote:

>
>[Event "Wch-Comp-11 Maastricht"]
>[Site "Maastricht"]
>[Date "19/8/2001"]
>[Round "2"]
>[White "Ferret 2xAMD 1.2"]
>[Black "Gandalf 5.0"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>
>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3
>O-O 9. h3 Bb7
>10. d4 Re8 11. Nbd2 Bf8 12. a4 h6 13. Bc2 exd4 14. cxd4 Nb4 15. Bb1 g6 16. Ra3
>Bg7 17. Nh2
>c5 18. d5 Nd7 19. Ndf3 h5 20. Nf1 bxa4 21. Qxa4 a5 22. Ne3 Ba6 23. Qd1 c4 24.
>Nd2 Ne5 25. Rf1
>Qb6 26. Kh2 c3 27. bxc3 Bxf1 28. Qxf1 Na6 29. Rb3 Qc7 30. c4 Nb4 31. Qd1 Nd7 32.
>Nef1
>Nc5 33. Rf3 a4 34. Kg1 Reb8 35. Rg3 Qe7 36. Ba3 Be5 37. Re3 Bf4 38. Rf3 Qe5 39.
>h4 Bh6
>40. Ne3 Nb3 41. Ndf1 Bxe3 42. Nxe3 Qa1
>
>[D]rr4k1/5p2/3p2p1/3P3p/pnP1P2P/Bn2NR2/5PP1/qB1Q2K1 w - - 1 1
>
>43. e5 Qxa3
>
>[D]rr4k1/5p2/3p2p1/3PP2p/pnP4P/qn2NR2/5PP1/1B1Q2K1 w - - 0 1
>
>
>44. Rxf7 Kxf7 45. Qf3+ Kg8 46. Qf6
>Qa1 47. Qe6+ Kf8 48. Qxd6+ Ke8 49. Qxg6+ Kd8 50. d6 Kc8 51. Qf7 Qxb1+ 52. Kh2
>Na6 53. e6
>Nbc5 54. e7 Qe4 55. d7+ Nxd7 56. e8Q+ Qxe8 57. Qxe8+ Kc7 58. Nd5+ Kc6 59. Qe6+
>Kc5 60. Qxd7
>a3 61. Qf5 Kxc4 62. Ne3+ Kc3 63. Qc2+ Kb4 64. Qc4+ Ka5 65. Qc3+ Kb5 66. Qb3+ Kc6
>67. Qa4+
>Kb6 68. Qxa3 Rh8 69. Qd6+ Kb5 70. Qe5+ Nc5 71. Qb2+ Kc6 72. Qf6+ Kb5 73. Nd5
>Rhc8 74. Qb2+
>Kc6 75. Ne7+ 1-0
>
>Hello, I am curious if there are programs that can find Ferret's 43.e5! in the
>first diagram, in reasonable time? You probably have to have some sort of
>singular extensions to play 43.e5! even if then you then don't see 44.Rxf7 yet.
>
>Rebel 12 could find e5 with its singular extensions enabled, but the searchtree
>in Rebel 12 would often grow out of control at ply>12 . Programs with singular
>extensions, like Bruce Moreland's Ferret have the advantage here, but is it
>findable with other extensions?
>
>My own current settings for Pro Deo do play 44.Rxf7! but only after 16 minutes,
>lots of nondefault extensions
>
>[Pruning = MISC_30]* extend singular checks , [Extensions (remaining)= 15] -not
>sure this last one is right as I remember these remaining Rebel extensions were
>bitsettings, not normal settings?-
>
>and big minusscore on my Celeron 500MHz, 43.e4-e5 I can't get yet. (43.Ba3xb4
>and 43.Ne3-f5 are other choices but I'm afraid these only lead to a lost game).
>
>
>Pro Deo 1.0 at move 44, custom settings:
>00:16:44.8	-3,52	12	162748792	Rxf7 Kxf7 Qf3+ Kg8 Qe4 Qc1+ Kh2 Qxb1 Qxb1
>00:16:44     12.15  -3.52  			44.Rxf7 Kxf7 45.Qf3 Kg8 46.Qe4 Qc1 47.Kh2 Qxb1
>48.Qxb1
>
>Is Ferret the only one to find the winning continuation quickly ?
>
>Regards, Eelco

It's an amazing feat to see that deep, esp in a tournament.  But it's possible
Gandalf had better than 50...Kc8, maybe Rb7 leads to a draw or better.




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