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Subject: Re: Game 5 Leko vs Kramnik

Author: Daniel Jackson

Date: 09:07:16 10/05/04

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On October 05, 2004 at 11:12:05, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 05, 2004 at 08:01:00, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
>>On October 05, 2004 at 06:29:51, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On October 05, 2004 at 00:09:29, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 04, 2004 at 23:24:29, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 04, 2004 at 23:00:29, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 04, 2004 at 19:04:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On October 04, 2004 at 13:54:46, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On October 04, 2004 at 10:33:00, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On October 04, 2004 at 09:28:28, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On October 04, 2004 at 02:07:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On October 04, 2004 at 01:12:58, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>CM10 Default on a slow PIII 500 can't hold Black's position, even before Kramnik
>>>>>>>>>>>>made errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't trust CM10 to handle this endgame, still it does show that 15..a6
>>>>>>>>>>>>followed by 16.Bxa6 is better for White and is difficult to defend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>BTW CM10 couldn't find 16.Bxa6, I had to manually input the moves, then set it
>>>>>>>>>>>>to autoplay. If there is a draw, I'll have to start at 24.gxf3 or even earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>This exchange to the endgame isn't particularly good. It may be down right
>>>>>>>>>>>>terrible!?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Can you show the way that chessmaster beat itself after 62...Be1
>>>>>>>>>>>People claimed in another thread that Kramnik could save a draw by 62...Be1 and
>>>>>>>>>>>I saw no contradiction.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The point is the line is a bit risky...what's the point to say this move draws,
>>>>>>>>>>when it is a position no one in their right mind would want to defend?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Why do you say noone?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If a player is strong in endgames he may prefer to defend inferior endgame and
>>>>>>>>>not play the middlegame.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's not the point....the point is Don't Play Inferior Lines and Chess,
>>>>>>>>period! Kramnik must have known the dangers, that is arrogance if he believes he
>>>>>>>>can win the match with his endgame technique alone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>He risks losing match!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It seems that Kramnik simply does not know to play endgames well enough but if a
>>>>>>>player knows to play endgames well enough then there is no danger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Huh? That is Kramnik's strength.
>>>>>
>>>>>It seems that he is not strong enough in the endgames based on the game.
>>>>
>>>>Based on one game? You're joking right?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The fact that kramnik may lose the match is a good thing because  I have reasons
>>>>>>>not to like kramnik.
>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't follow you here? What does liking or disliking have to do with it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think Kramnik should play Kasparov....he owes Kasparov a re-match, that's how
>>>>>>it was done before chess became corrupt!
>>>>>
>>>>>No
>>>>
>>>>YES! That is How it is Done!!
>>>>>
>>>>>I think shirov should play kasparov
>>>>
>>>>Too Late....Kramnik played Kasparov, End of Story!
>>>>
>>>>Shirov is no match for Kasparov anyway...I'll only concede that Shirov should
>>>>have played Kasporov first....but Kasparov wanted a match and it was setteled,
>>>>but I understand your point.
>>>>>
>>>>>Shirov beated kramnik so kramnik did not deserve to play kasparov in the first
>>>>>place so he does not deserve a rematch.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe so...actually I agree but that's not what happened. The best we can hope
>>>>for is Kramnik wins and after Kasparov regains the FIDE WCC then he can redeem
>>>>himself by beating Kramnik, leaving no room for doubt Who is the WCC!!
>>>
>>>The days of Kasparovs dominance are long time ago.
>>>It is high time to realize that.
>>
>>Who are you to say this....Kasparov will win the FIDE WCC, anyone who knows
>>anything about chess knows this!
>>
>>The tough part will be beating Kramnik...unless Leko wins...then Kasparov will
>>almost certainly win!
>
>I do not agree.
>I think Leko has not less chances than kasparov in case of beating kramnik.
>
>Leko is still young and can make progress more than kasparov and in case of
>beating kramnik he will also have the motivation to do it.
>
>Uri

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