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Subject: Re: People vs computers starts tomorrow!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 16:35:12 10/05/04

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On October 05, 2004 at 19:17:06, Derek Paquette wrote:

>On October 05, 2004 at 17:12:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 05, 2004 at 14:14:13, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On October 05, 2004 at 11:40:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 05, 2004 at 03:25:32, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Where is all the discussion??
>>>>>
>>>>>There are different dates for games, but start date seems to be 8.10. And after
>>>>>4 days we know the truth about computers playing level.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>How will we know the "truth" after these games, when we apparently don't know
>>>>the "truth" after all the previous human/computer games???
>>>
>>>
>>>What truth are we referring about? My only conclusion is that computers tactics
>>>are so strong nowadays that any strategic advantage that the human GM might have
>>>over them simply balanced out.
>>>
>>>
>>>Jorge
>>
>>I have no idea about what "truth" he was talking about.
>>
>>But the computers are _not_ overwhelming the humans in tactics by any stretch...
>
>YOu can look at that two ways,
>1. computers aren't creating or isolating tactical situations and exploiting
>them
>2. computers will play tactics near perfectly every time, where a human would
>not.  So you could almost say they are blowing humans off the board with
>tactics.

I wouldn't say any such thing.  Give a computer Shirov's Bh3 sacrifice and see
how long the "tactical monsters" take to see that, and it is _all_ tactics.  The
main advantage of computers is steady play.  Humans occasionally make _big_
mistakes.  Computers simply do not.  Apparently that is enough to produce pretty
good results...





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