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Subject: Shredder 8 and Deep Fritz 8 analysis

Author: Gordon Rattray

Date: 16:59:48 10/05/04

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I've noticed that Shredder 8 and Deep Fritz 8 don't stick with e5, and switch to
Nf5.  The last iteration of each search was allowed to complete in case e5 was
chosen again.

cheers

Gordon

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Hardware:  Dual Opteron 248, 1 GB for hash

Analysis by Shredder 8:

1.Bxb4 Rxb4 2.Rf4
  -+  (-1.77)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:01
1.Bxb4 Rb6 2.Nc2 Qb2 3.Bc3
  µ  (-1.08)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:01
1.Bxb4 Rb6 2.Nc2 Qb2 3.Bc3
  +-  (2.20)   Depth: 2/2   00:00:01
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Nc2 Nxc2 3.Qxc2 Rxb4
  +-  (2.20)   Depth: 2/5   00:00:01
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Nc2 Nxc2 3.Qxc2 Rxb4
  -+  (-1.81)   Depth: 3/3   00:00:01
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Nc2 Nxc2 3.Qxc2 Rxb4
  -+  (-1.81)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:01
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Nc2 Nxc2 3.Qxc2 Rxb4 4.Qb3
  -+  (-1.84)   Depth: 4/4   00:00:01
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Nc2 Nxc2 3.Qxc2 Rxb4 4.Qb3 axb3
  -+  (-1.84)   Depth: 5/7   00:00:01
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Nc2 Nxc2 3.Qxc2 Rxb4 4.Qb3 axb3
  -+  (-2.09)   Depth: 6/8   00:00:01
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Rxf7 Kxf7 3.Qe2 Nxe2+ 4.Kf1
  -+  (-2.59)   Depth: 6/9   00:00:01
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Nc2 Qb2 3.Nxd4 Qxb4
  -+  (-2.59)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:01
1.Nc2 Nxc2 2.Bxd6 Ncd4 3.Re3 Qb2 4.Bxb8 Rxb8
  -+  (-2.56)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:01
1.Nc2 Nxc2 2.Bxd6 Ncd4 3.Re3 Qb2 4.Bxb8 Rxb8
  -+  (-2.56)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:01
1.Nc2 Nxc2 2.Bxd6 Ncd4 3.Re3 Qb2 4.Bxb8 Rxb8 5.e5
  -+  (-2.40)   Depth: 7/20   00:00:01  54kN
1.Nc2 Nxc2 2.Bxd6 Ncd4 3.Re3 Qb2 4.Bxb8 Rxb8 5.e5 a3 6.Rxb3 Qxb3 7.Qxb3 Nxb3
  -+  (-2.65)   Depth: 8/15   00:00:01  84kN
1.Nc2 Nxc2 2.Bxd6 Ncd4 3.Re3 Re8 4.c5 Qb2 5.e5 a3
  -+  (-2.98)   Depth: 8/15   00:00:01  105kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Nxf3+ 4.gxf3 Qxb1 5.Bc7
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 8/15   00:00:01  130kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Nc2 Nxc2 4.Bxc2 Rxb4 5.e5 Rxc4 6.exd6 Qxc2
  -+  (-2.84)   Depth: 8/15   00:00:01  139kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Nc2 Nxc2 4.Bxc2 Rxb4 5.c5 dxc5
  -+  (-3.09)   Depth: 9/15   00:00:01  192kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Nc2 Nxc2 4.Bxc2 Rxb4 5.c5 dxc5
  -+  (-3.29)   Depth: 9/16   00:00:01  220kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Rf6 Qxb4 4.Qxb4 Rxb4 5.Bd3 Rb3 6.Nc2 Rxd3 7.Nxd4
  -+  (-3.20)   Depth: 10/24   00:00:01  430kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Rf6 Qxb4 4.Qxb4 Rxb4 5.Bd3 Rb3 6.Kf1 Rxd3 7.Rxd6
  -+  (-3.45)   Depth: 11/24   00:00:01  671kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Rf6 Qxb4 4.Qxb4 Rxb4 5.Bd3 Rb3 6.Rxd6 Rxd3 7.c5 a3 8.Rd7
  -+  (-3.95)   Depth: 11/24   00:00:01  737kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Nxf3+ 4.gxf3 Qxb1 5.Nd1 Re8 6.c5 a3 7.Qc3 Qxd1+
8.Kg2 a2 9.Qh8+ Kxh8
  -+  (-4.04)   Depth: 11/28   00:00:02  1008kN
1.Nf5 gxf5 2.Rxf5 Qxa3 3.Qxh5 Qc1+ 4.Kh2 Qxc4 5.Rxf7 Nxd5 6.exd5 a3 7.Qg6+ Kh8
  -+  (-4.03)   Depth: 11/28   00:00:02  1397kN
1.Nf5 gxf5 2.Rxf5 Qxa3 3.Qxh5 Qc1+ 4.Kh2 Qxc4 5.Rxf7 Nxd5 6.exd5 Qxh4+ 7.Qxh4
Kxf7 8.Qc4 Nd4
  -+  (-3.68)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:03  1754kN
1.Nf5 Qxa3 2.Nh6+ Kh7 3.Nxf7 Qc1 4.Qxc1 Nxc1 5.Nxd6 Nxd5 6.Nf7 Rxb1 7.exd5 Kg8
8.c5 a3
  -+  (-3.68)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:04  3575kN
1.Nf5 Qxa3 2.Nh6+ Kh7 3.Nxf7 Qc1 4.Qxc1 Nxc1 5.Nxd6 Nxd5 6.exd5 Rxb1 7.Nb5 Kg8
  -+  (-3.93)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:05  4072kN
1.Nf5 Qxa3 2.Nxd6 Qc1 3.Qxc1 Nxc1 4.e5 Na6 5.Bc2 Ne2+ 6.Kh2 Nd4 7.Bxa4 Nxf3+
8.gxf3 Nc5 9.Bc2 Ra3
  -+  (-4.24)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:06  4876kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Nxf3+ 4.gxf3 Qxb1 5.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 6.Kh2 Rb7 7.c5 Rb2
8.Kg2 a3 9.Be5 Rb1
  -+  (-4.23)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:06  4940kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 Rc1 7.Be7 a3
8.Bxa3 Rxa3
  -+  (-3.99)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:06  5340kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qf1 Qxf1+ 5.Nxf1 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 Rb3 7.Kh2
  -+  (-4.08)   Depth: 13/30   00:00:08  6612kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 Rb3 7.Be5 Kf8
8.c5 Ke7 9.Ba1 Rb1 10.Nc2
  -+  (-3.83)   Depth: 14/29   00:00:10  8617kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 Rb3 7.Be5 a3
8.Ba1 Rb1 9.Nc2
  -+  (-3.83)   Depth: 14/32   00:00:11  9491kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 f6 7.Kg2 Kf7
8.Ba3 Kg7
  -+  (-3.79)   Depth: 15/34   00:00:14  13474kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 a3 6.Bxa3 Nxf3+ 7.gxf3 Rxa3
8.c5 Rc1 9.c6 Rd3 10.Kg3 Rd2
  -+  (-3.90)   Depth: 16/39   00:00:21  20363kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 Rb3 7.e5 Rd3
8.Kg2 Rd2 9.Ba3 Rxd5 10.Nxd5
  -+  (-3.82)   Depth: 17/41   00:00:37  36089kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 a3 7.Bxa3 Rxa3
8.e5 Ra5 9.e6 fxe6 10.dxe6 Kf8
  -+  (-4.07)   Depth: 18/41   00:00:55  53605kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 a3 7.Bxa3 Rxa3
8.c5 Rc1 9.c6 Kf8 10.e5 Ke8 11.Kg3 Raa1 12.Kf4
  -+  (-4.46)   Depth: 18/43   00:01:10  69132kN
1.e5 Qxa3 2.Rxf7 Kxf7 3.Qf3+ Kg8 4.Qe4 Nd2 5.Qxg6+ Kf8 6.Qxd6+ Kg7 7.Qg6+ Kf8
8.Qf6+ Ke8 9.Qg6+ Kd8 10.Qf6+ Kc7 11.Qe7+ Kb6 12.c5+ Ka6 13.Qf6+
  -+  (-4.45)   Depth: 18/46   00:02:19  132763kN
1.e5 Qxa3 2.Rxf7 Kxf7 3.Qf3+ Kg8 4.Qe4 Nd2 5.Qxg6+ Kf8 6.Qxd6+ Kg7 7.Qg6+ Kf8
8.Qf6+ Ke8 9.Qg6+ Kd8 10.Qd6+ Kc8 11.Bf5+ Kb7
  -+  (-4.10)   Depth: 18/46   00:03:03  174791kN
1.e5 Qxa3 2.Rxf7 Qc1 3.Qxc1 Nxc1 4.Bxg6 Ne2+ 5.Kh1 Rf8 6.Rb7 a3 7.Bh7+ Kh8 8.Bb1
Rab8 9.Rh7+ Kg8 10.Ra7 Ra8 11.Rxa8 Rxa8 12.exd6 a2 13.Bxa2 Rc8 14.Nf5
  -+  (-3.67)   Depth: 18/53   00:06:58  427215kN
1.e5 Qxa3 2.Rxf7 Qc1 3.Qxc1 Nxc1 4.Bxg6 Ne2+ 5.Kh1 Rf8 6.Rb7 a3 7.Bh7+ Kh8 8.Bb1
Rab8 9.Rh7+ Kg8 10.Rxh5 dxe5 11.Rg5+ Kf7 12.Bh7 a2 13.Rf5+ Ke7 14.Rxe5+ Kd6
15.c5+
  -+  (-3.78)   Depth: 19/53   00:08:42  523584kN
1.e5 Qxa3 2.Rxf7 Qc1 3.Qxc1 Nxc1 4.Bxg6 Ne2+ 5.Kh1 Rf8 6.Rb7 a3 7.Bh7+ Kh8 8.Bb1
Rfb8 9.Rh7+ Kg8 10.Rxh5 Nxd5 11.Bh7+ Kg7 12.Nf5+ Kf7 13.Nxd6+ Ke7 14.Bg6 a2
15.Nc8+
  -+  (-4.03)   Depth: 20/49   00:10:55  652779kN
1.e5 Qxa3 2.Rxf7 Qc1 3.Qxc1 Nxc1 4.Bxg6 Ne2+ 5.Kh1 Rf8 6.Rb7 a3 7.Bh7+ Kh8 8.Bb1
Rfb8 9.Rh7+ Kg8 10.Rxh5 Nxd5 11.Bh7+ Kg7 12.cxd5 a2 13.Nc2 Nf4 14.Rf5 Nxd5
15.Na1
  -+  (-4.53)   Depth: 20/57   00:12:17  740884kN
1.e5 Qxa3 2.Rxf7 Qc1 3.Bxg6 Qxd1+ 4.Nxd1 a3 5.Nc3 dxe5 6.Bxh5 Nd2 7.d6 Nxc4 8.d7
a2 9.Nxa2 Rxa2 10.Bg6 Nd5 11.g4 Ra1+ 12.Kh2
  -+  (-5.07)   Depth: 20/57   00:20:36  1259257kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 a3 7.Bxa3 Rxa3
8.c5 Rc1 9.c6 Kf8 10.Kg3 Rxe3
  -+  (-5.06)   Depth: 20/57   00:21:13  1296593kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 a3 7.Bxa3 Rxa3
8.c5 Rc1 9.c6 Kf8 10.Kg3 Rxe3
  -+  (-4.71)   Depth: 20/57   00:21:37  1321191kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Qxb1 4.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 5.Kh2 Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 a3 7.Bxa3 Rxa3
8.c5 Rc1 9.c6 Kf8 10.f4 Raa1 11.e5
  -+  (-4.68)   Depth: 20/57   00:22:36  1380241kN
1.Nf5 Qxa3 2.Nh6+ Kh7 3.Rxf7+ Kxh6 4.Qf3 Qc1+ 5.Kh2 Rh8 6.Qf6 Rh7 7.Rf8 Raa7
8.e5 Qf4+ 9.Qxf4+ g5 10.Bxh7 gxf4 11.Bb1 Nxd5
  -+  (-4.67)   Depth: 20/57   00:25:15  1527697kN
1.Nf5 Qxa3 2.Nh6+ Kh7 3.Rxf7+ Kxh6 4.Qf3 Qc1+ 5.Kh2 Rh8 6.Qf6 Rh7 7.Rf8 Raa7
8.e5 Qf4+ 9.Qxf4+ g5 10.Bxh7 gxf4 11.Bb1 Nxd5 12.cxd5 Kg7 13.Rxf4 dxe5 14.Rxa4
  -+  (-4.32)   Depth: 20/57   00:27:23  1644370kN
1.Nf5 Qxa3 2.Nh6+ Kh8 3.Nxf7+ Kg7 4.Nxd6 Qc1 5.Qxc1 Nxc1 6.e5 Nxd5 7.Rf7+ Kh6
8.Be4 a3 9.Bxd5 a2 10.Rd7 Ne2+
  -+  (-3.36)   Depth: 20/57   00:39:40  2354591kN
1.Nf5 Ra7 2.Nh6+ Kg7 3.Nf5+ Kf8 4.Rxb3 axb3 5.Bxb4 Rxb4 6.Nxd6 Ra2 7.Qf1 Rb2
8.c5 Qxb1 9.e5 Rxh4 10.Qxb1 Rxb1#
  -+  (-3.60)   Depth: 21/60   00:58:29  3388524kN


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Analysis by Deep Fritz 8:

1.Bxb4--
  =  (-0.18)   Depth: 7/19   00:00:00  28kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1
  =  (-0.18)   Depth: 7/22   00:00:00  45kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Nxf3+ 3.gxf3 Qb2 4.Nc2 a3 5.e5 a2
  =  (-0.17)   Depth: 8/22   00:00:00  85kN
1.Bxb4--
  ³  (-0.45)   Depth: 9/22   00:00:00  183kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1
  ³  (-0.45)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:00  303kN
1.Bxb4--
  µ  (-0.73)   Depth: 10/23   00:00:00  775kN
1.Bxb4 Nd2 2.Nc2
  µ  (-0.73)   Depth: 10/23   00:00:00  778kN
1.Bxb4 Nd2 2.Nc2 Nxf3+ 3.gxf3 Qb2 4.Na1 Rxb4
  ³  (-0.60)   Depth: 11/30   00:00:00  1624kN
1.Bxb4--
  µ  (-0.88)   Depth: 12/32   00:00:01  3074kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Nxf3+ 4.gxf3 Qxb1 5.Nd1 Rb3 6.Qf1 Rd3 7.Ne3 Qxf1+
  µ  (-1.18)   Depth: 12/36   00:00:01  4400kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Nxf3+ 4.gxf3 Qxb1 5.Nd1 Rb3 6.Qf1 Rd3 7.Ne3 Qxf1+
  µ  (-1.18)   Depth: 13/32   00:00:03  10426kN
1.Bxb4--
  -+  (-1.46)   Depth: 14/35   00:00:07  21542kN
1.Bxb4 Nd4 2.Qe1 Qb2 3.Bxd6 Nxf3+ 4.gxf3 Qxb1 5.Qxb1 Rxb1+ 6.Kg2 a3 7.Bxa3
  -+  (-3.04)   Depth: 14/58   00:00:11  32632kN
1.Nf5!
  -+  (-3.03)   Depth: 14/58   00:00:31  89121kN
1.Nf5 Ra7 2.Nxd6 Qxa3 3.e5 Qa1 4.Nb5 Rd7 5.Rxb3 axb3
  -+  (-3.01)   Depth: 14/58   00:00:49  136962kN
1.Nf5 Ra7 2.Nh6+ Kg7 3.Nf5+ gxf5 4.Rg3+ Kf8
  -+  (-3.01)   Depth: 15/45   00:02:16  384599kN
1.e5!
  -+  (-3.00)   Depth: 15/51   00:03:40  622110kN
1.e5!
  -+  (-2.85)   Depth: 15/51   00:03:56  666278kN
1.e5!
  -+  (-2.54)   Depth: 15/51   00:04:16  721840kN
1.e5 dxe5 2.Bxb4 Nd4 3.Qe1 Nxf3+ 4.gxf3 Qb2 5.Nc2 Rxb4 6.Nxb4
  -+  (-2.32)   Depth: 15/51   00:05:05  859991kN
1.e5--
  -+  (-2.61)   Depth: 16/44   00:05:45  971613kN
1.e5 dxe5 2.Nf5 Ra7 3.Nh6+ Kg7 4.Rxf7+ Rxf7 5.Nxf7 Qxa3 6.Nxe5 Qc1 7.Qxc1 Nxc1
8.Nd7 Re8
  -+  (-3.33)   Depth: 16/57   00:08:01  1353929kN
1.Nf5!
  -+  (-3.32)   Depth: 16/57   00:08:50  1494997kN
1.Nf5!
  -+  (-3.17)   Depth: 16/57   00:09:08  1543850kN
1.Nf5!
  -+  (-2.86)   Depth: 16/57   00:09:49  1659136kN
1.Nf5 Ra7 2.Nh6+ Kg7 3.Nf5+ gxf5 4.Rg3+ Kf8
  -+  (-2.75)   Depth: 16/57   00:10:44  1811099kN
1.Nf5 Ra7 2.Nh6+ Kg7 3.Nf5+ gxf5 4.Rg3+ Kf8 5.Qxh5
  -+  (-2.75)   Depth: 17/49   00:16:05  2722064kN
1.Nf5!
  -+  (-2.46)   Depth: 18/51   00:33:44  5673613kN
1.Nf5--
  -+  (-2.75)   Depth: 19/52   01:00:16  10091689kN
1.Nf5 Ra7 2.Nh6+ Kg7 3.Nf5+ Kf8 4.Nxd6 Qxa3 5.e5 Qc1 6.Qxc1 Nxc1 7.Nb5 Re7 8.d6
Rxe5 9.Bxg6 f6
  -+  (-2.79)   Depth: 19/78   01:36:29  15892954kN, tb=3




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