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Subject: Re: Thinker 4.6c

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 22:38:51 10/05/04

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On October 06, 2004 at 01:31:30, gerold daniels wrote:

>good morning . been playing thinker vs. aristarch 4.5. 5 min.games.
>10 games..thinker 6/10..aristarch 1/10..3draws.
>good luck gerold.


You have still not played enough games. A 10 games match at blitz is
almost meaningless. I give below an example of a match [40'/40] I
have played over 100 games between Gandalf 4.32g and Program_X
[I am a beta tester of X] to show what I mean:

Gandalf 4.32g vs Program X

Games 1-10
3.0-7.0 [win program X]
Total 3.0-7.0 for program X

Games 11-20
6.5-3.5 [win Gandalf]
Total 9.5-10.5 for program X

Games 21-30
5.0-5.0 [draw]
Total 14.5-15.5 for program X

Games 31-40
3.5-6.5 [win program X]
Total 18.0-22.0 for program X

Games 41-50
4.5-5.5 [win program X]
Total 22.5-27.5 for program X

Games 51-60
3.0-7.0 [win program X
Total 25.5-34.5 for program X

Games 61-70
5.0-5.0 [draw]
Total 30.5-39.5 for program X

Games 71-80
8.0-2.0 [win Gandalf]
Total 38.5-41.5 for program X

Games 81-90
7.0-3.0 [win Gandalf]
Total 45.5-44.5 for Gandalf

Games 91-100
5.5-4.5 [win Gandalf]
Final match result 51.0-49.0 for Gandalf

Can anybody tell me for sure which of the above two is the stronger program??
And what about if I had only played a 20 games match and these games would have
been those played in rounds 71-90? Then, the result would have been 15.0-5.0 in
favour of Gandalf 4.32g!! Imagine what some testers would have argued about the
strenght of program X?

For all these reasons I think that something concrete about the strength between
two programs can only be said if 100, better 200-300 games or even more have
been played.

Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com]



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