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Subject: Re: Latest Carfty Se happenings

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 09:57:49 10/06/04

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On October 06, 2004 at 10:45:46, Tony Hedlund wrote:

>On October 06, 2004 at 08:32:20, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>Alpha Pocket Crafty 19.17 SE in alpha stage.  It is playing within a GUI , will
>>have most ofthe SE features.
>>
>>Personality Opening Books -  Plan is now to generate opening books that will
>>just about every move the "real" personality played in their games for about the
>>first 20 - 25 moves.   Of course, you have to play what their opponents played
>>for it to stay in the personality book.  Fischer personality book will be
>>completed first.  It is very cool. It really give you a sense of the openings
>>the personality played.
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>In the Arena Event Forum they say that 19.17 is weaker then earlier 19.xx
>versions. Is that true?
>
>Tony

I have not done enough testing personally to make that call.   Normally, each
new version is a little better.  Occasionally, there are enough changes to fix
things, that overall it may seem to be weaker.  In many of the standard position
tests I run, 19.7 did very well.  But position testing is not the same as game
testing.  I think it also depends on the length of game.  Some vesion may be
better at blitz, others may be longer at LTC.   It is very hard to make
assesments, because you really need hundreds of games to get type of evidence
that is statistically reliable.  Plus computer vs computer may yield different
results than humand vs computer.  A change that may be strong for humans may
hurt againt computers.  Bob Hyatt has been doing for a long time, I would trust
his judgment for which version is best.  Most of his testing is against humans.

We have plenty of computer vs computer testing being done.  We actually need
more human (GM) vs computer at LTC to how we (as a group) are doing.  There is
just not enough games being played by GMs against computers that are being
published.



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