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Subject: Re: Latest Carfty Se happenings

Author: David Dahlem

Date: 13:41:30 10/06/04

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On October 06, 2004 at 16:07:25, Mihaly Szalai wrote:

>On October 06, 2004 at 15:53:21, David Dahlem wrote:
>
>>On October 06, 2004 at 14:41:24, Mihaly Szalai wrote:
>>
>>>On October 06, 2004 at 13:33:19, David Dahlem wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 06, 2004 at 13:10:38, David Dahlem wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 06, 2004 at 08:32:20, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Alpha Pocket Crafty 19.17 SE in alpha stage.  It is playing within a GUI , will
>>>>>>have most ofthe SE features.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Personality Opening Books -  Plan is now to generate opening books that will
>>>>>>just about every move the "real" personality played in their games for about the
>>>>>>first 20 - 25 moves.   Of course, you have to play what their opponents played
>>>>>>for it to stay in the personality book.  Fischer personality book will be
>>>>>>completed first.  It is very cool. It really give you a sense of the openings
>>>>>>the personality played.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Nice idea. Is there not a way to create a personality book that will only play
>>>>>moves made by the human GM, and not play moves made by his opponent? I just
>>>>>checked the crafty docs, and under the intructions for creating books.bin, i
>>>>>found this statement ...
>>>>>
>>>>>"You  can append a "!" to any move you want; Crafty will play the moves marked
>>>>>with "!" if there are any, ignoring  the  rest  of  the book moves found in
>>>>>book.bin."
>>>>>
>>>>>So if all the moves made by the GM were marked with "!" in the pgn used to
>>>>>create books.bin, couldn't this be used to create a book that "only" made moves
>>>>>by the human GM?
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>After reading further in the crafty docs, i also saw this statement ...
>>>>
>>>>"You can enter as many "!" as you want. On the other hand, if a move is appended
>>>>with a "?" Crafty will never play it. Moves in books.bin that are not flagged
>>>>with either "!" or "?" don't have any influence on Crafty's choice at all."
>>>>
>>>>So it seems to be possible to mark the opponents moves with a "?" so they will
>>>>never be played. If a quick and easy way to mark moves in this manner could be
>>>>found, a personality book can be created that "truly" plays like a human GM. :-)
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>Hi Dave,
>>>
>>>see my PGN files with flagged moves: http://misimatt.freeweb.hu/csebook.zip
>>>
>>>Mihaly
>>
>>Hi Mihaly
>>
>>That's great. I think i'll create a Fischer book using your pgn with flagged
>>moves. After further thought, i realize flagging the opponent moves with a "?"
>>will not work, since opponents sometimes play the same moves. :-)
>>
>>Regards
>>Dave
>
>You should consider creating books.bin files from the PGNs and use them with
>the book.bin from Dr. Hyatt's ftp.
>
>Best
>Mihaly

Why should i do that if i want the personality to play book moves that the
grandmaster played? I created book.bin and books.bin for each of the 5
personalities from your flagged pgns. Will creating both books from the same pgn
work, for example, fischer.pgn?

By the way, are you planning more flagged pgns for other grandmasters? I think
there are 24 more SE GM personalities. I would be interested in flagged pgns for
any, or all, of these. :-)

Regards
Dave



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