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Subject: Re: Latest Carfty Se happenings

Author: Mihaly Szalai

Date: 14:16:26 10/06/04

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On October 06, 2004 at 16:41:30, David Dahlem wrote:

>On October 06, 2004 at 16:07:25, Mihaly Szalai wrote:
>
>>On October 06, 2004 at 15:53:21, David Dahlem wrote:
>>
>>>On October 06, 2004 at 14:41:24, Mihaly Szalai wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 06, 2004 at 13:33:19, David Dahlem wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 06, 2004 at 13:10:38, David Dahlem wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 06, 2004 at 08:32:20, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Alpha Pocket Crafty 19.17 SE in alpha stage.  It is playing within a GUI , will
>>>>>>>have most ofthe SE features.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Personality Opening Books -  Plan is now to generate opening books that will
>>>>>>>just about every move the "real" personality played in their games for about the
>>>>>>>first 20 - 25 moves.   Of course, you have to play what their opponents played
>>>>>>>for it to stay in the personality book.  Fischer personality book will be
>>>>>>>completed first.  It is very cool. It really give you a sense of the openings
>>>>>>>the personality played.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nice idea. Is there not a way to create a personality book that will only play
>>>>>>moves made by the human GM, and not play moves made by his opponent? I just
>>>>>>checked the crafty docs, and under the intructions for creating books.bin, i
>>>>>>found this statement ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"You  can append a "!" to any move you want; Crafty will play the moves marked
>>>>>>with "!" if there are any, ignoring  the  rest  of  the book moves found in
>>>>>>book.bin."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So if all the moves made by the GM were marked with "!" in the pgn used to
>>>>>>create books.bin, couldn't this be used to create a book that "only" made moves
>>>>>>by the human GM?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>After reading further in the crafty docs, i also saw this statement ...
>>>>>
>>>>>"You can enter as many "!" as you want. On the other hand, if a move is appended
>>>>>with a "?" Crafty will never play it. Moves in books.bin that are not flagged
>>>>>with either "!" or "?" don't have any influence on Crafty's choice at all."
>>>>>
>>>>>So it seems to be possible to mark the opponents moves with a "?" so they will
>>>>>never be played. If a quick and easy way to mark moves in this manner could be
>>>>>found, a personality book can be created that "truly" plays like a human GM. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>
>>>>see my PGN files with flagged moves: http://misimatt.freeweb.hu/csebook.zip
>>>>
>>>>Mihaly
>>>
>>>Hi Mihaly
>>>
>>>That's great. I think i'll create a Fischer book using your pgn with flagged
>>>moves. After further thought, i realize flagging the opponent moves with a "?"
>>>will not work, since opponents sometimes play the same moves. :-)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Dave
>>
>>You should consider creating books.bin files from the PGNs and use them with
>>the book.bin from Dr. Hyatt's ftp.
>>
>>Best
>>Mihaly
>
>Why should i do that if i want the personality to play book moves that the
>grandmaster played? I created book.bin and books.bin for each of the 5
>personalities from your flagged pgns. Will creating both books from the same pgn
>work, for example, fischer.pgn?

It's enough to create book.bin in this case.
>
>By the way, are you planning more flagged pgns for other grandmasters? I think
>there are 24 more SE GM personalities. I would be interested in flagged pgns for
>any, or all, of these. :-)

It would be a time-consuming task, but who knows? :-)
>
>Regards
>Dave

Mihaly



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