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Subject: Re: null move question

Author: Peter Fendrich

Date: 15:40:14 10/06/04

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On October 06, 2004 at 15:13:17, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

>On October 06, 2004 at 04:49:49, Peter Fendrich wrote:
>
>>On October 05, 2004 at 16:43:38, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>
>>>What, if best move after null is the reverse previous move,
>>>like doing three alternated null moves in a row.
>>>What can we conclude then?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Gerd
>>
>>When this is happening and the nullmove is evaluated as bad, it's a "zugzwang
>>alert". One idea is to re-evaluate the null move in order to find if it's really
>>a zugzwang. If not I suppose it's not telling us anything special...
>>
>>/Peter
>
>Yes, may be the whole idea sucks.

No, it wasn't my intention to say that the idea sucks!
If we have a "zugzwang alert" something can be done.
After a second thought I'm not so sure anymore that it is a "zugswang alert". We
probable could see if there is a pattern by capturing positions directly from a
search when this happens.
/Peter

>If nullmove is evaluated as bad, there might be better refutations than the
>reverse move, which may accidently tried first with cut.
>
>I suggest, if nullmove fails high with reverse of previous move is best, to do a
>(conditional) confirmation search and to do some extensions if the confirmation
>search is less or equal beta.
>
>Gerd



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