Author: David Dahlem
Date: 07:39:05 10/08/04
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On October 08, 2004 at 02:46:11, Mike Byrne wrote: >On October 07, 2004 at 23:44:38, David Dahlem wrote: > >>On October 07, 2004 at 22:58:30, Mike Byrne wrote: >> >>>On October 06, 2004 at 23:52:19, David Dahlem wrote: >>> >>>>On October 06, 2004 at 22:16:04, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>> >>>>>You had a nice thread going on personality books. >>>>> >>>>>Let me describe my process - I create a pgn file for Fischer with White -- I run >>>>>that through bookup - flag the most common moves for white going somewhere >>>>>between 20 to 50ply (10 - 25 moves deep). I flag only the white moves. I then >>>>>the same with Fischer as black pgn., flagging only the most common black moves. >>>>>I export the bookup file as multiple pgn's and the combine both test files to >>>>>create one fischer.bin (later I will modify Crafty to look for fischer.bin when >>>>>playing as with fischer personality), import the moves in Crafty. Crafty will >>>>>then play just like Fischer wther white or black. With Bookup, I should be able >>>>>to make one personality book in about 4 hours. It is really cool and it works. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>The fischer.bin only has about 30,000+ positions, so it is not a very big book. >>>>>maybe 1 MB. >>>> >>>>Hi Mike >>>> >>>>I don't have Bookup, but i think i can mark the moves using the search and >>>>replace feature of my text editor. This will also require splitting into >>>>white.pgn and black.pgn. All of the moves for the selected grandmaster will get >>>>marked. It shouldn't take over 30 minutes to create a book using this method. >>>>I'm not sure what you mean by most common moves. Bookup must have a feature that >>>>identifies the most common moves? >>> >>>it does --- it has counter --I'm not exactly sure what it counts - perhaps leaf >>>nodes? what exactly are using search and replace to mark all the moves in 30 >>>minutes? >>> >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Dave >> >>"Search-and-replace is a capability that allows a computer user to find a given >>sequence of characters in one or more text files and, if desired, replace the >>sequence with another sequence of characters. A global search-and-replace means >>that the replace is to take effect in all files within the context of the >>search." >> >>It's possible to flag black or white moves with a text editor that supports >>search and replace. It's easy once you get the hang of it, but it is harder to >>explain how to do it than it is to do it. Basically i start by replacing all >>spaces with a unique character or string, the asterisk symbol, for example. Then >>just replace certain strings with flags, spaces, etc. >> >>Regards >>Dave > >I understand - but in a pgn file... > >Leko vs Kramnik Game 8 > >1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 >d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 >15.Re4 g5 16.Qf1 Qh5 17.Nd2 Bf5 18.f3 Nf6 19.Re1 Rae8 20.Rxe8 Rxe8 21.a4 >Qg6 22.axb5 Bd3 23.Qf2 Re2 24.Qxe2 Bxe2 25.bxa6 Qd3 26.Kf2 Bxf3 27.Nxf3 >Ne4+ 28.Ke1 Nxc3 29.bxc3 Qxc3+ 30.Kf2 Qxa1 31.a7 h6 32.h4 g4 Resigns > >what find/replace scheme would you use to add a mark to all of white's moves or >all black moves? You said you did that in 30 minutes - how many games were in >the file? Hi Mike After some practice, i can flag the white.pgn and black.pgn and create the crafty book in 10-15 minutes. It doesn't really matter how many games are in a pgn file, since search and replace works on the complete file, not just one game. My text editor (Notespad) can handle 25mb text files. I'll try to give a sample of how i flag the moves, keep in mind i am not very good at giving instructions. First i make sure all comments, variations, etc. are removed, and then i split the games into white.pgn and black.pgn. In my text editor, i replace all spaces with "*", as in the example below. [Event*"?"] [Site*"?"] [Date*"????.??.??"] [Round*"?"] [White*"Leko"] [Black*"Kramnik"] [Result*"*"] 1.e4*e5*2.Nf3*Nc6*3.Bb5*a6*4.Ba4*Nf6*5.O-O*Be7*6.Re1*b5*7.Bb3*O-O*8.c3*d5*9.exd5*Nxd5*10.Nxe5*Nxe5*11.Rxe5*c6*12.d4*Bd6*13.Re1*Qh4*14.g3*Qh3*15.Re4*g5*16.Qf1*Qh5*17.Nd2*Bf5*18.f3*Nf6*19.Re1*Rae8*20.Rxe8*Rxe8*21.a4*Qg6*22.axb5*Bd3*23.Qf2*Re2*24.Qxe2*Bxe2*25.bxa6*Qd3*26.Kf2*Bxf3*27.Nxf3*Ne4+*28.Ke1*Nxc3*29.bxc3*Qxc3+*30.Kf2*Qxa1*31.a7*h6*32.h4*g4*0-1 I will have to use quotes around the search and replace strings, since that's the only way i can show spaces. The first search and replace pass will clean up the pgn tags, by replacing all occurances of "*"" with " "". In other words, replace the asterisk in the pgn tags with a space. Only takes a few seconds to do this in hundreds or thousands of games. Next i remove the asterisk after the period, by replacing ".*" with ".". To flag black moves, i replace the asterisks preceding the line numbers, for example, "*1" with "! 1". This is repeated for "*2", "*3", etc., up to "*9". When this is done, replace all remaining asterisks with a space. That's it. To mark white moves, the same procedure is used, except in reverse. For example, replace the asterisks preceding the line numbers with a space, "*1" replaced by " 1" for example. After this is done, replace all remaining asterisks with "! ". This may sound complicated, but it's really easy. There may be other search and replace schemes that will work, but this is how i do it. Of course, it would be nice if someone would write a tool to flag moves. :-) Regards Dave
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