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Subject: Re: My $.02 on books

Author: Mihaly Szalai

Date: 10:17:08 10/08/04

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On October 08, 2004 at 13:04:53, David Dahlem wrote:

>On October 08, 2004 at 10:29:00, Mihaly Szalai wrote:
>
>>On October 08, 2004 at 02:46:11, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>On October 07, 2004 at 23:44:38, David Dahlem wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 07, 2004 at 22:58:30, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 06, 2004 at 23:52:19, David Dahlem wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 06, 2004 at 22:16:04, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You had a nice thread going on personality books.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Let me describe my process - I create a pgn file for Fischer with White -- I run
>>>>>>>that through bookup - flag the most common moves for white going somewhere
>>>>>>>between 20 to 50ply (10 - 25 moves deep).   I flag only the white moves.  I then
>>>>>>>the same with Fischer as black pgn., flagging only the most common black moves.
>>>>>>>I export the bookup file as multiple pgn's and the combine both test files to
>>>>>>>create one fischer.bin (later I will modify Crafty to look for fischer.bin when
>>>>>>>playing as with fischer personality), import the moves in Crafty.  Crafty will
>>>>>>>then play just like Fischer wther white or black.  With Bookup, I should be able
>>>>>>>to make one personality book in about 4 hours.  It is really cool and it works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The fischer.bin only has about 30,000+ positions, so it is not a very big book.
>>>>>>>maybe 1 MB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't have Bookup, but i think i can mark the moves using the search and
>>>>>>replace feature of my text editor. This will also require splitting into
>>>>>>white.pgn and black.pgn. All of the moves for the selected grandmaster will get
>>>>>>marked. It shouldn't take over 30 minutes to create a book using this method.
>>>>>>I'm not sure what you mean by most common moves. Bookup must have a feature that
>>>>>>identifies the most common moves?
>>>>>
>>>>>it does --- it has counter --I'm not exactly sure what it counts - perhaps leaf
>>>>>nodes?   what exactly are using search and replace to mark all the moves in 30
>>>>>minutes?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>"Search-and-replace is a capability that allows a computer user to find a given
>>>>sequence of characters in one or more text files and, if desired, replace the
>>>>sequence with another sequence of characters. A global search-and-replace means
>>>>that the replace is to take effect in all files within the context of the
>>>>search."
>>>>
>>>>It's possible to flag black or white moves with a text editor that supports
>>>>search and replace. It's easy once you get the hang of it, but it is harder to
>>>>explain how to do it than it is to do it. Basically i start by replacing all
>>>>spaces with a unique character or string, the asterisk symbol, for example. Then
>>>>just replace certain strings with flags, spaces, etc.
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>I understand - but in  a pgn file...
>>>
>>>Leko vs Kramnik Game 8
>>>
>>>1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3
>>>d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3
>>>15.Re4 g5 16.Qf1 Qh5 17.Nd2 Bf5 18.f3 Nf6 19.Re1 Rae8 20.Rxe8 Rxe8 21.a4
>>>Qg6 22.axb5 Bd3 23.Qf2 Re2 24.Qxe2 Bxe2 25.bxa6 Qd3 26.Kf2 Bxf3 27.Nxf3
>>>Ne4+ 28.Ke1 Nxc3 29.bxc3 Qxc3+ 30.Kf2 Qxa1 31.a7 h6 32.h4 g4 Resigns
>>>
>>>what find/replace scheme would you use to add a mark to all of white's moves or
>>>all black moves?  You said you did that in 30 minutes - how many games were in
>>>the file?
>>
>>Hi Mike,
>>
>>please, change the code in Crafty and we will flag the PGN files for you.
>>My english is too poor to explain it but it takes about 20 minutes and
>>independent from the number of the games in the file.
>>
>>Best
>>Mihaly
>
>Hi Mihaly
>
>I've been experimenting with creating repertoire books for the Crafty SE
>grandmaster personalities. I think including only "won" games is best. With
>non-active grandmasters, collecting complete game collections is not a problem,
>since the number of games is a fixed number. But with still active grandmasters,
>acquiring a complete up-to-date collection is more difficult. How, or where, do
>you find an up-to-date collection for these grandmasters? I think only Kasparov,
>Polgar, and possibly Spassky are still active?
>
>Regards
>Dave

Hi Dave,

I regularly download the TWIC files where I can find the most recent games
every week.
Judit Polgar isn't active because she is expecting a baby :))

I include the won and drawn games because of wider variety of play.

Best
Mihaly



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