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Subject: Re: Lack of Respect (in Computerchess towards Chessplayers)

Author: Pedro Gomes

Date: 13:46:37 10/12/04

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On October 12, 2004 at 09:07:52, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>This is an old topic of mine which caught my interest with the ugly
>International Championship in Holland where FRITZ participated because CHESSBASE
>was a sponsor of the event. I dont want to repeat the details but somehow I had
>the impression that programmers like Stefan Meyer-Kahlen and also many other
>writers in CCC showed a bit a lack of respect towards the international GM.
>
>Years have gone and the chessprograms became stronger also due to the huge human
>input into the creating of good opening books and the endgame tables. But the
>worst development for human players is the meanwhile enormous depth they must be
>aware of in their calculations. Sure - the depth is so deep because of selective
>tricks, but in a short time and over a whole game a human brain certainly could
>find some holes on the side of the computer depth but the masters themselves are
>unable to play absolutely without "visible" faults, visible to the machines at
>least.
>
>So basically it's now mainly a test for the exactness of the calculating of the
>masters because only seldom they can exloit the strategical blindness of the
>machines. This could only function better IF the masters could adopt the typical
>anti-computer play. But this is impossible to do for them because that would
>spoil the fun of the whole game of chess. It would be a lame and painful
>reduction of the beauty of chess towards primitive exploitation of the machine's
>typical blindness. I write it once again for all those who doubt it. A human GM
>will even play 'his' moves against stupid beginners although he could win with a
>couple of tricks in 10 moves.


Mr. Tueschen

Why do you think that beginners (in chess) are stupid ?
And when the ELO rating system was established as definitive inteligence test ?

El Pedro




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