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Subject: Re: shreddermark

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 01:01:04 10/13/04

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On October 12, 2004 at 18:28:52, A.G.B. Bluemers wrote:

>On October 12, 2004 at 09:07:44, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>>On October 11, 2004 at 19:25:22, joseph soney wrote:
>>
>>>Could someone please explain to me this setting.  I am trying to find the
>>>optimum hash setting size for Blitz games under five minutes.  This Shreddermark
>>>function seems to not help me at all.  I have done tests with time of 5-L and
>>>various hash table sizes.  Here are some: 16-96 hash = 5569 score; 128-192 hash
>>>= 3712 score; 256 hash = 2828 score; and last 512 hash = 1679 score. Now, you
>>>would think the high score would give me the best overall playing result but
>>>sadly this doesn't appear to be true.  It appears to play the best at 512, but
>>>may get into time trouble.  Anyway, I'm more lost than ever.  Could someone
>>>either (a) tell me how to use Shreddermark so I can find these hash table sizes
>>>out; or (b) just tell me the hash table size I need for 5 minute and under games
>>>based on this configuration: Dual AMD Opteron 250, 1.5 gig pc3200 ram.
>>>Thanks in advance
>>>Please somebody help me.
>>
>>The Shreddermark is seriously messed up. Don't bother with it, it is a waste of
>>time.
>>
>>Basically for your system the best hash settings would be 256mb in
>>lightning/bullet (1 0, 2 0), 512mb in blitz games (3 0 to 14 0).. anything over
>>15 0 use 1024mb.
>>
>>If you want to test NPS (more important is time to find the right move), or run
>>test sets with different hash sizes you'll need to lock your learning file. To
>>do this you'll need to rename your shredder.plr file in your Chessbase\engines
>>directory. Now, go into Shredder and setup a position.. anything. 2 kings and 2
>>pawns. Start infinite analysis so it will create another shredder.plr file.
>>Exit, go to your engines directory and right click/properties on the new
>>shredder.plr. Set it to read-only.
>you also might uncheck learning in engine options.
>>Now you can do your testing with test-sets or whatever else you'd like without
>>the learn file messing up the results.
>
>as an alternative install "shredder classic" from the cdrom.engine options:In
>the engine window you can see the % hash usage.

Yes, this (and actual play) was what I've been basing the hash setting
recommendations on. It fills up aweful quick at 256-384mb.. even on my single
Athlon XP 2.6GHz. Even on this CPU I would prefer 1gb hash for longer games..
but having 512mb ram prevents that unfortunately.



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