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Subject: Re: Next comp vs humans, comp should not use book

Author: Daniel Clausen

Date: 03:32:40 10/13/04

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On October 13, 2004 at 06:06:52, emerson tan wrote:

>Since computers can play much better than humans,

[insert proof here]


> the next team humans versus
>team computers, computers should not use opening books.

Many engines are designed in a way that they _depend_ on an opening book. That
is, they don't have the necessary eval-terms to play a very good opening on
their own. (similarly, engines which are programmed with EGTB in mind, don't
have knowledge to play KPK endgames etc)

One can argue whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. But that's the current
situation.


>Fischer mentioned before that he plays against computers with opening book
>disabled cause the opening book is made by man.

Maybe next time he should play against nothing, since the engine is also made by
man.


>Its also interesting to see how the computer navigate the opening using purely
>engine. It is also interesting to see humans play against the computers which
>does not play book and we will have an unfamiliar position in less than 10
>moves.

While that may me interesting to us computer-chess freaks, it won't happen. All
these human-computer events are not scientific experiments but public
exhibitions. (nothing wrong with that)


>Get rid of the tablebases also. The ability to tire on human part and the
>ability to blunder is already a big disadvantage to humans.

I guess EGTBs are overrated... besides... why should you penalize the engine
because of a weakness of humans? It's not the engines fault that humans blunder
at times.

Sargon



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