Author: Albert Silver
Date: 05:59:57 10/13/04
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On October 13, 2004 at 08:03:36, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>On October 13, 2004 at 07:21:53, William Penn wrote:
>
>>It's good to see these test results being posted here again!
>>Any idea when the next SSDF list will be published? Sorry if that has already
>>been mentioned. I was away from this board for awhile.
>>Thanks,
>>WP
>
>I don't know. It seem like my friends are losing interest. We are now discussing
>if/how we will continue.
>
>Tony
I'm sorry to hear it. You could try telling them that the new Tiger and Junior
are coming out.... Plus there are some famous settings of CM9K that deserve
testing and that have been tested compared with others. Here are their results:
http://www.grailmaster.com/misc/chess/comp/cm.html
Still, I presume they may feel a bit bored. I have an idea that they might find
interesting as well as would be of immense interest to the computer chess and
chess community in general. In other words, it would help bridge the gap between
the SSDF and the normal chess-playing community, and provide an intereting task
(IHMO) for the SSDF members.
Right now, the SSDF essentially plays the matches, presents the results, and
allows users to download the games, though not directly from the SSDF site. Even
though it is generally accepted that the top programs play a top-notch game on
the current hardware (A1200), I honestly doubt more than a handful of people,
apart from the programmers themselves, actually go through any of these games.
My ideas actually follow quite simly what the Informant does:
1) Best Games
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Carefully select no more than 2-3 most *attractive* games per match (even less
if possible). Provide these seperately as a "Best of SSDF" selection, and
possibly also for direct viewing using a javascript viewer such as MyChess. No
one wants to go through hundreds of computer games (no offense) since it is
already a heavy task to go through tons of quality human games as it is, and it
is well-known that machines will not hesitate to play 100 nonsense moves due to
some microscopic (but wrong) advantage it sees. However, if you selected a few
spectacular games and said these were great/fun games and should be seen, I'm
sure they would draw attention. This would also serve to change the opinion sme
people might have on computer chess. Keep them very few to not overwhelm people.
2) Best Novelties
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Obviously, any move outside of the books would be a calculated move by an
engine, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is a novelty or a good one. Still,
I think this is probably a good source for interesting opening novelties that
has not been properly used by master players. I admit this is undoubtedly the
hardest of the tasks to be done, but it would certainly be of interest.
3) Best Combinations
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They are tactical beasts above all, so tactics should be present. If an engine
played a strong combination on another engine that wasn't forseen, it must
really be a tough one, and therefore interesting. A collection of the SSDF
combinations would surely be quite popular with the players in general. You'd
most likely see this in matches where one side is considerably stronger than the
other.
Anyhow, those are a few ideas worth pursuing IMHO.
Albert
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