Author: Richard Pijl
Date: 06:24:33 10/13/04
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On October 13, 2004 at 09:04:40, David Dahlem wrote: >On October 13, 2004 at 08:40:57, George Tsavdaris wrote: > >>On October 13, 2004 at 08:31:07, David Dahlem wrote: >> >>>On October 13, 2004 at 07:42:24, Ingo Bauer wrote: >>> >>>>On October 13, 2004 at 06:06:52, emerson tan wrote: >>>> >>>>>Since computers can play much better than humans, the next team humans versus >>>>>team computers, computers should not use opening books. >>>>> >>>>>Fischer mentioned before that he plays against computers with opening book >>>>>disabled cause the opening book is made by man. >>>>> >>>>>Its also interesting to see how the computer navigate the opening using purely >>>>>engine. It is also interesting to see humans play against the computers which >>>>>does not play book and we will have an unfamiliar position in less than 10 >>>>>moves. >>>>> >>>>>Get rid of the tablebases also. The ability to tire on human part and the >>>>>ability to blunder is already a big disadvantage to humans. >>>> >>>> >>>>I completly agree and want to make an extension to that proposal: All humans >>>>should be lobotomized to lose the knowledge about opening they did not invent. >>>>Then we would have a equal match! >>>> >>>>Bye >>>>Ingo >>> >>>Human have to think during openings, they don't look up moves in a list. If >>>computers created their own opening book completely by their own learning, then >>>we would have an equal match. :-) >> >> So we must forbit human GM's and generally all chess players to read chess >>books. They should not have the right according to this logic, to learn >>something that they have not created with their own learning........ > >I repeat, humans use their brain to make their opening moves. They do not look >at chess books during the game to make a move. Human memory is open to mistakes. The same is true for opening book creators. As well as GM seconds. I don't see a big difference between opening preparation by a GM with the help of his seconds, and the creation of an opening book for a computer program. Perhaps the difference is that the GM needs more time to remember to correct lines. >Computers with opening books, on the other hand, do not think during the >opening, they are picking moves from a list. Human players do that as well. I usually do not have to think a lot during the opening phase of a game myself. The only reason I take my time in making the move is to be able to concentrate on the game. bye, Richard.
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