Author: Uri Blass
Date: 15:27:47 10/13/04
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On October 13, 2004 at 15:39:20, David Dahlem wrote: >On October 13, 2004 at 13:18:53, George Tsavdaris wrote: > >>On October 13, 2004 at 10:03:43, David Dahlem wrote: >> >>>On October 13, 2004 at 09:27:50, Daniel Clausen wrote: >>> >>>>On October 13, 2004 at 09:04:40, David Dahlem wrote: >>>> >>>>[snip] >>>> >>>>>I repeat, humans use their brain to make their opening moves. They do not look >>>>>at chess books during the game to make a move. Human memory is open to mistakes. >>>>>Computers with opening books, on the other hand, do not think during the >>>>>opening, they are picking moves from a list. >>>> >>>>I don't see your point here. If a GM decides to play the Spanish variation, he >>>>simply remembers the moves "e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bb5" etc. So does the computer. >>> >>>Not true! The computer is not remembering anything. It is picking the moves from >>>a list. It would be totally different if the computer had created the book based >>>on its own "thinking". >> >> But humans don't make this also! Does Karjakin(an example) have created the >>book moves he plays on his own thinking? No. He just read them somewhere and >>studied them for many years so he just remembers them. The whole opening >>knowledge from history or newer games, is available to him and he is taking >>advantage of it. And then he just picks a move from a list that his brain >>constructs. > >But a human picking a move from his brain is not the same as a computer picking >a move from a file on the hard drive. Even though he may read and study for >years, a human still has to think, remember, and decide what to play. Computers >don't have to study and remember when they can just instantly pick a move from a >list. Humans are not allowed to have a hard copy of opening moves to look at >during games. Can't you see the difference? By this logic you should forbid computers to play chess. They look at the source code that humans wrote for them in every game again and again. You can think that the source code is a chess book with instructions how to think and it is illegal to bring books with instruction how to think to tournament even if no opening move is written in them. I think that it is not logical to forbid book and the only logical limitation is for the hardware and the size of the engine including book and tablebase. The advantage of computers is that they have better memory and better speed than humans and it make sense to limit this advantage if humans cannot compete with it. Uri
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