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Subject: Re: What do you think the outcomes would be with different engines?

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 16:32:34 10/15/04

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On October 15, 2004 at 19:07:05, Andrei P wrote:

>On October 15, 2004 at 18:26:23, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On October 15, 2004 at 17:08:31, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On October 15, 2004 at 16:07:33, robert flesher wrote:
>>>
>>>>Very sad indeed. To all that look at it with a computer, i suggest you use some
>>>>of your own knowledge. You will find several wins.
>>>
>>>Even if you use a good program like shredder 8 playing a shootout black will win
>>>easy :-)
>>>
>>
>> I guess the position was equal after all, but Shredder 8 in a shooutout won
>>with White ?!
>
>Jorge,
>Probably the same statistics should apply as with regular engine matches. So,
>you need to stage 40+ shootouts to get a meaningful outcome. Andrei

Yes Probably 4 more shootouts, with Junior 8, Fritz 8, Deep Fritz8, Hiarcs 9.

What do you think the outcomes would be with different engines, at game in 90
Minutes shootout?

>
>>
>>[Event "Shootout (Shredder8, Blitz:10') "]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "????.??.??"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "New game"]
>>[Black "?"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[SetUp "1"]
>>[FEN "1k4r1/p1b2p2/6qp/1p1P4/2pNQp2/8/PP3P2/1K2R3 w - - 0 1"]
>>[PlyCount "181"]
>>
>>1. Nf5 Rd8 2. a4 a6 3. axb5 axb5 4. d6 Rxd6 5. Nxd6 Bxd6 6. Qxg6 fxg6 7. Re6
>>Bc5 8. f3 Kc7 9. Rxg6 h5 10. Kc2 h4 11. Kc3 Bd6 12. Kd4 Bf8 13. Rg8 Bb4 14. Rh8
>>Kb6 15. Rxh4 Ka5 16. Rxf4 Bd2 17. Rf5 Ka4 18. b3+ cxb3 19. Kd3 Be1 20. Re5 Bg3
>>21. Rg5 Bh2 22. Kc3 Bc7 23. Kb2 Kb4 24. f4 Kc4 25. f5 Kd5 26. Rg1 Ke5 27. Rf1
>>Kf6 28. Kxb3 Ba5 29. Kc2 Bb4 30. Kd3 Bd6 31. Ke4 b4 32. Rh1 Bg3 33. Rb1 Bd6 34.
>>Rb3 Bc5 35. Rd3 Bf2 36. Kf4 Bc5 37. Rd7 Bf8 38. Ke4 Be7 39. Ra7 Bd8 40. Rb7 b3
>>41. Rxb3 Ba5 42. Rb5 Bc3 43. Rd5 Be1 44. Rd6+ Kf7 45. Rd1 Bh4 46. Rh1 Bg5 47.
>>Rh5 Bd2 48. Rh7+ Kf6 49. Rh2 Bg5 50. Rg2 Bh4 51. Rg6+ Kf7 52. Rc6 Bf2 53. Rc2
>>Be1 54. Rc7+ Kf6 55. Rc1 Bh4 56. Rh1 Bg5 57. Rh2 Kf7 58. Ke5 Bf6+ 59. Kf4 Bc3
>>60. Rh3 Bd4 61. Rd3 Bb2 62. Ke4 Kf6 63. Rb3 Ba1 64. Rb1 Bc3 65. Rg1 Bb4 66. Rb1
>>Bd2 67. Rd1 Bc3 68. Rc1 Bb2 69. Rc7 Ba1 70. Rc2 Kf7 71. Kf4 Bd4 72. Rd2 Ba7 73.
>>Ra2 Bd4 74. Rd2 Ba7 75. Ke4 Bb8 76. Rd1 Kf6 77. Rh1 {
>>[%eval 717,22] [%emt 0:00:20]} Bg3 {(Ke7) [%eval 742,22] [%emt 0:00:19]} 78.
>>Rh6+ {[%eval 834,20] [%emt 0:00:16]} Ke7 {[%eval 904,18] [%emt 0:00:14]} 79.
>>Kf3 {(Rg6) [%eval 32617,18] [%emt 0:00:18]} Bb8 {
>>(Bd6) [%eval 32747,23] [%emt 0:02:22]} 80. Kg4 {[%eval 32747,22] [%emt 0:00:26]
>>} Kf7 {[%eval 32749,21] [%emt 0:01:46]} 81. Kg5 {
>>[%eval 32749,19] [%emt 0:00:12]} Be5 {[%eval 32749,20] [%emt 0:01:29]} 82. Rh7+
>>{[%eval 32744,13] [%emt 0:00:02]} Kf8 {(Ke8) [%eval 32750,18] [%emt 0:00:06]}
>>83. f6 {[%eval 32750,18] [%emt 0:00:24]} Bd6 {[%eval 32751,18] [%emt 0:00:14]}
>>84. Kf5 {(Kg6) [%eval 32756,15] [%emt 0:00:09]} Bb4 {
>>[%eval 32757,17] [%emt 0:00:10]} 85. Ke6 {[%eval 32757,16] [%emt 0:00:11]} Kg8
>>{[%eval 32759,17] [%emt 0:00:04]} 86. Rg7+ {[%eval 32759,15] [%emt 0:00:03]}
>>Kh8 {[%eval 32760,19] [%emt 0:00:08]} 87. Kf7 {[%eval 32760,13] [%emt 0:00:00]}
>>Bf8 {[%eval 32761,21] [%emt 0:00:11]} 88. Rg1 {[%eval 32761,11] [%emt 0:00:00]}
>>Kh7 {(Bh6) [%eval 32764,20] [%emt 0:00:07]} 89. Rh1+ {
>>[%eval 32764,5] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bh6 {[%eval 32765,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 90. Rh4 {
>>[%eval 32765,3] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kh8 {[%eval 32766,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 91. Rxh6#
>>{[%eval 32766,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 1-0
>>
>>Final position of the Shootout:
>>
>>[D]7k/5K2/5P1R/8/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 91



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