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Subject: Re: Kramnik-Leko is so boaring

Author: Tony Nichols

Date: 02:51:35 10/16/04

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On October 15, 2004 at 11:10:01, Dmitri wrote:

>On October 15, 2004 at 02:41:09, Tony Nichols wrote:
>
>>On October 15, 2004 at 02:10:05, Bigler David wrote:
>>
>>>Dear all,
>>>
>>>Ok this has nothing to do with computers…
>>>This match is the must non interesting match I have ever seen.
>>>Even the matches from Schlechter were much more interesting to see.
>>>
>>>I live in Switzerland at around 4hous by car of the “event” and wanted to go and
>>>see the players.
>>>Hopefully I decided not to go and the day I decided that they made a draw after
>>>16 moves.
>>>
>>>8 hours driving just to see a draw in 16 moves would have been to much.
>>>
>>>I was a real fan of Kramnik in the 19th and beginning 2k, he was really amazing.
>>>The way he plays today is for me really not understandable.
>>>I don’t want to withdraw the merit of Leko, he did a good fight and if he wins,
>>>he just deserve it !
>>>
>>>But let play Morozevitch Kasparov Anand Topalov Shirov or Carlsen (Hydra ?),
>>>these guys all have the fighting spirit !
>>>
>>>rgds
>>
>>
>> I agree that this is not the most exciting match of all time, but in my opinion
>>the Kasparov-Kramnik match was worse. I think Kasparov gets the blame for that.
>>He offered way too many draws with the white pieces. Topalov got his chance
>>against Leko at Dortmund 2002. He's simply not strong enough. Morozevitch is an
>>enigma. One year he's awesome and the next only good. Anand? Well let's not
>>forget the first 8 games were drawn in his match against Kasparov 1995. Kasparov
>>wins one game and Anand falls apart. Carlsen doesnt deserve to be mentioned with
>>this group, Many are stronger than he is right now.
>>   I think we will see exciting chess in the Kasparov-Kashimdzhonov match but I
>>don't think either of them can beat Kramnik or Leko in a match right now.
>> Just my opinion but Kasparov is no longer playing 2800 level chess, maybe not
>>even 2750. He will not be World Champion again!
>>
>>Tony
>
>This kind of logic is why politics can't take off in Russian, people pick
>presidents by looking at how good their smile is!!! Chess is not boxing or a
>martial arts competition. It is a hard fought war with "on" and "off" days these
>guys are not playing for coffee cakes. And your judgment of the playing strength
>of Kasparov is like an ant picking the winner of sumo wrestling competition. In
>fact 95% of all chess players dont understand chess the top 10 players play
>without computers so your 2800 and 2750 level comparisions are meaningless.

I don't claim to understand chess at the 2800 level. I am just going by his
performance rating in the last couple of years. Clearly whatever he did to
become 2800+ is not what he's doing now.

P.S. Don't forget that theoretical ant has 50/50 chance to be right!

Tony "Ant" Nichols



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