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Subject: Re: I let Fritz 8 in Shootout and it ended in a draw ! (Shredder 5 too)

Author: Andrew Platt

Date: 04:49:20 10/16/04

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On October 16, 2004 at 04:42:57, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On October 15, 2004 at 18:26:23, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On October 15, 2004 at 17:08:31, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On October 15, 2004 at 16:07:33, robert flesher wrote:
>>>
>>>>Very sad indeed. To all that look at it with a computer, i suggest you use some
>>>>of your own knowledge. You will find several wins.
>>>
>>>Even if you use a good program like shredder 8 playing a shootout black will win
>>>easy :-)
>>>
>>
>> I guess the position was equal after all, according to Fritz 8 :-)
>
>
>[Event "Shootout (Fritz8, Blitz:45') "]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "????.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "New game"]
>[Black "?"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "1k4r1/p1b2p2/6qp/1p1P4/2pNQp2/8/PP3P2/1K2R3 w - - 0 1"]
>[PlyCount "157"]
>
>1. Qxg6 {[%eval -97,14] [%emt 0:02:53]} fxg6 {[%eval -91,13] [%emt 0:00:29]} 2.
>Re7 {[%eval -97,14] [%emt 0:01:13]} Rc8 {[%eval -97,14] [%emt 0:00:54]} 3. f3 {
>[%eval -100,14] [%emt 0:01:41]} h5 {[%eval -97,14] [%emt 0:01:05]} 4. Rh7 {
>(Nxb5) [%eval -94,14] [%emt 0:01:10]} a6 {[%eval -88,14] [%emt 0:00:58]} 5. Kc2
>{[%eval -91,15] [%emt 0:01:12]} Ka8 {[%eval -94,15] [%emt 0:01:29]} 6. Rh6 {
>[%eval -91,15] [%emt 0:01:18]} Kb7 {(Rd8) [%eval -88,15] [%emt 0:01:57]} 7. Ne6
>{[%eval -97,14] [%emt 0:00:44]} Bd6 {[%eval -119,15] [%emt 0:02:01]} 8. Rxg6 {
>[%eval -119,14] [%emt 0:01:04]} Rh8 {[%eval -113,14] [%emt 0:01:03]} 9. Ng5 {
>[%eval -94,13] [%emt 0:00:45]} Bb8 {[%eval -113,14] [%emt 0:01:29]} 10. Nf7 {
>[%eval -109,13] [%emt 0:00:58]} Rf8 {[%eval -113,14] [%emt 0:00:43]} 11. Rg7 {
>[%eval -106,15] [%emt 0:01:23]} Kb6 {[%eval -103,15] [%emt 0:01:18]} 12. Rh7 {
>[%eval -103,14] [%emt 0:00:47]} Kc5 {[%eval -103,14] [%emt 0:00:44]} 13. d6 {
>[%eval -94,14] [%emt 0:00:40]} Kc6 {[%eval -91,14] [%emt 0:00:48]} 14. a4 {
>[%eval -91,14] [%emt 0:01:19]} Bxd6 {[%eval -84,13] [%emt 0:00:41]} 15. Nxd6 {
>[%eval -94,14] [%emt 0:00:43]} Kxd6 {[%eval -94,14] [%emt 0:00:20]} 16. axb5 {
>[%eval -87,15] [%emt 0:00:40]} axb5 {[%eval -109,17] [%emt 0:01:09]} 17. Rxh5 {
>[%eval -94,17] [%emt 0:01:13]} b4 {[%eval -103,16] [%emt 0:00:42]} 18. Rb5 {
>(b3) [%eval -116,16] [%emt 0:00:54]} Re8 {[%eval -119,16] [%emt 0:00:34]} 19.
>Rf5 {[%eval -119,16] [%emt 0:00:48]} Re2+ {[%eval -116,16] [%emt 0:00:42]} 20.
>Kc1 {[%eval -116,17] [%emt 0:00:42]} b3 {[%eval -125,16] [%emt 0:00:34]} 21.
>Rxf4 {[%eval -125,17] [%emt 0:00:34]} Kc5 {[%eval -125,17] [%emt 0:00:42]} 22.
>Rf8 {[%eval -119,17] [%emt 0:00:38]} Rc2+ {[%eval -125,17] [%emt 0:00:51]} 23.
>Kb1 {[%eval -122,17] [%emt 0:00:33]} Rh2 {(Kd4) [%eval -122,17] [%emt 0:00:46]}
>24. Kc1 {[%eval -122,18] [%emt 0:00:52]} Kd4 {[%eval -128,17] [%emt 0:00:39]}
>25. Re8 {[%eval -128,18] [%emt 0:00:44]} Kd3 {[%eval -125,17] [%emt 0:00:34]}
>26. Rd8+ {[%eval -125,19] [%emt 0:00:42]} Ke3 {[%eval -122,18] [%emt 0:00:28]}
>27. Re8+ {[%eval -125,18] [%emt 0:00:34]} Kxf3 {[%eval -128,18] [%emt 0:00:36]}
>28. Re7 {[%eval -131,17] [%emt 0:00:28]} Rc2+ {
>(Re2) [%eval -125,17] [%emt 0:00:34]} 29. Kb1 {[%eval -122,18] [%emt 0:00:25]}
>Rd2 {(Rg2) [%eval -119,18] [%emt 0:00:42]} 30. Kc1 {
>[%eval -122,18] [%emt 0:00:22]} Re2 {(Rg2) [%eval -131,17] [%emt 0:00:28]} 31.
>Rf7+ {[%eval -128,18] [%emt 0:00:27]} Ke3 {[%eval -128,18] [%emt 0:00:30]} 32.
>Re7+ {[%eval -128,19] [%emt 0:00:49]} Kf2 {[%eval -128,19] [%emt 0:00:45]} 33.
>Rf7+ {[%eval -125,18] [%emt 0:00:28]} Ke1 {[%eval -125,18] [%emt 0:00:22]} 34.
>Rg7 {[%eval -125,18] [%emt 0:00:19]} Rc2+ {[%eval -134,18] [%emt 0:00:31]} 35.
>Kb1 {[%eval -125,11] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rd2 {[%eval -125,17] [%emt 0:00:21]} 36.
>Re7+ {[%eval -122,18] [%emt 0:00:19]} Kd1 {(Re2) [%eval -125,18] [%emt 0:00:32]
>} 37. Rg7 {(Rh7) [%eval -128,18] [%emt 0:00:18]} Rd4 {
>(Ke2) [%eval -128,17] [%emt 0:00:21]} 38. Rh7 {[%eval -137,17] [%emt 0:00:18]}
>Ke2 {[%eval -138,17] [%emt 0:00:27]} 39. Rh2+ {[%eval -141,17] [%emt 0:00:20]}
>Kf3 {(Ke3) [%eval -138,17] [%emt 0:00:29]} 40. Kc1 {
>[%eval -141,17] [%emt 0:00:18]} Rd8 {[%eval -144,17] [%emt 0:00:31]} 41. Rh7 {
>[%eval -144,17] [%emt 0:00:20]} Ke3 {[%eval -144,17] [%emt 0:00:28]} 42. Rh3+ {
>[%eval -144,17] [%emt 0:00:25]} Kd4 {[%eval -144,17] [%emt 0:00:17]} 43. Rh4+ {
>[%eval -144,17] [%emt 0:00:19]} Kc5 {[%eval -147,18] [%emt 0:00:28]} 44. Rh5+ {
>[%eval -141,17] [%emt 0:00:17]} Kb4 {[%eval -141,18] [%emt 0:00:27]} 45. Rh7 {
>[%eval -141,17] [%emt 0:00:19]} Rf8 {[%eval -144,17] [%emt 0:00:24]} 46. Rb7+ {
>[%eval -144,17] [%emt 0:00:21]} Kc5 {[%eval -141,17] [%emt 0:00:15]} 47. Rc7+ {
>[%eval -141,17] [%emt 0:00:28]} Kb5 {[%eval -141,17] [%emt 0:00:21]} 48. Rb7+ {
>[%eval -137,16] [%emt 0:00:16]} Kc6 {[%eval -141,17] [%emt 0:00:18]} 49. Rg7 {
>(Rh7) [%eval -141,16] [%emt 0:00:16]} Rf2 {[%eval -141,16] [%emt 0:00:18]} 50.
>Re7 {(Rg6+) [%eval -144,16] [%emt 0:00:14]} Rc2+ {
>(Kd6) [%eval -141,16] [%emt 0:00:25]} 51. Kb1 {[%eval -144,17] [%emt 0:00:17]}
>Rg2 {[%eval -141,16] [%emt 0:00:15]} 52. Kc1 {[%eval -144,16] [%emt 0:00:16]}
>Kd6 {(Rh2) [%eval -141,15] [%emt 0:00:13]} 53. Re8 {
>[%eval -137,16] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rc2+ {[%eval -138,16] [%emt 0:00:21]} 54. Kb1 {
>[%eval -134,17] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rh2 {(Kc7) [%eval -131,17] [%emt 0:00:21]} 55.
>Kc1 {[%eval -134,17] [%emt 0:00:21]} Rf2 {(Kc5) [%eval -138,16] [%emt 0:00:19]}
>56. Rc8 {[%eval -137,17] [%emt 0:00:16]} Rc2+ {
>(Kd5) [%eval -128,16] [%emt 0:00:12]} 57. Kb1 {[%eval -131,18] [%emt 0:00:16]}
>Kd7 {(Kd5) [%eval -138,16] [%emt 0:00:11]} 58. Rc5 {
>[%eval -131,18] [%emt 0:00:13]} Ke6 {[%eval -128,18] [%emt 0:00:17]} 59. Rc8 {
>[%eval -128,17] [%emt 0:00:10]} Kd5 {[%eval -128,17] [%emt 0:00:12]} 60. Rd8+ {
>[%eval -128,17] [%emt 0:00:14]} Kc6 {(Kc5) [%eval -141,18] [%emt 0:00:17]} 61.
>Rc8+ {[%eval -125,17] [%emt 0:00:13]} Kb6 {(Kb5) [%eval -128,16] [%emt 0:00:10]
>} 62. Rb8+ {[%eval -141,17] [%emt 0:00:14]} Kc7 {[%eval -138,17] [%emt 0:00:11]
>} 63. Rg8 {(Re8) [%eval -144,16] [%emt 0:00:10]} Re2 {
>[%eval -144,16] [%emt 0:00:15]} 64. Kc1 {[%eval -144,16] [%emt 0:00:09]} Kb6 {
>(Kc6) [%eval -144,16] [%emt 0:00:15]} 65. Rg6+ {
>(Rd8) [%eval -134,16] [%emt 0:00:13]} Kb5 {[%eval -128,16] [%emt 0:00:09]} 66.
>Rg8 {[%eval -131,16] [%emt 0:00:10]} Rc2+ {[%eval -131,16] [%emt 0:00:15]} 67.
>Kb1 {[%eval -131,17] [%emt 0:00:15]} Ka6 {(Rd2) [%eval -134,16] [%emt 0:00:12]}
>68. Rc8 {[%eval -137,17] [%emt 0:00:12]} Kb7 {[%eval -88,16] [%emt 0:00:14]}
>69. Rc5 {(Rg8) [%eval -81,17] [%emt 0:00:09]} Kb6 {
>[%eval -75,17] [%emt 0:00:14]} 70. Rc8 {[%eval -78,17] [%emt 0:00:10]} Ka6 {
>[%eval -78,16] [%emt 0:00:10]} 71. Rc7 {[%eval -75,16] [%emt 0:00:08]} Rh2 {
>(Re2) [%eval -50,15] [%emt 0:00:11]} 72. Kc1 {[%eval -41,16] [%emt 0:00:18]}
>Kb5 {[%eval -47,14] [%emt 0:00:13]} 73. Rc8 {
>(Rb7+) [%eval -37,15] [%emt 0:00:08]} Rh1+ {
>(Rc2+) [%eval -56,15] [%emt 0:00:10]} 74. Kd2 {[%eval -44,11] [%emt 0:00:00]}
>c3+ {[%eval -56,15] [%emt 0:00:08]} 75. Rxc3 {[%eval -31,15] [%emt 0:00:11]}
>Rh2+ {[%eval -31,14] [%emt 0:00:06]} 76. Kc1 {[%eval -25,15] [%emt 0:00:09]}
>Kb4 {[%eval -22,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} 77. Rc8 {[%eval -19,15] [%emt 0:00:11]} Re2
>{(Rg2) [%eval -19,14] [%emt 0:00:09]} 78. Rb8+ {[%eval 0,16] [%emt 0:00:09]}
>Kc4 {[%eval -9,15] [%emt 0:00:06]} 79. Rc8+ {[%eval 0,15] [%emt 0:00:06]}
>1/2-1/2
>
>Here is the final position of Fritz 8 Shootout:
>
>[D]2R5/8/8/8/2k5/1p6/1P2r3/2K5 b - - 0 79

I adjudicated a draw with a one minute per move Shredder 5 game after black
failed to hold on to the additional pawns:

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.10.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "1k4r1/p1b2p2/6qp/1p1P4/2pNQp2/8/PP3P2/1K2R3 w - -"]

1. Nf5 {-1.67/13 1:12m} Rd8 {+1.64/14 1:26m} 2. Rd1
{-1.64/14 2:21m} h5 {+1.65/14 1:40m} 3. Kc1 {-1.66/13
1:17m} Bd6 {+1.64/13 1:21m} 4. Rh1 {-1.63/13 2:08m} h4
{+1.75/13 1:48m} 5. Nxd6 {-1.63/12 1:16m} Qxd6 {+1.49/14
54s} 6. Rxh4 {-1.38/15 1:29m} Qxd5 {+1.44/14 2:06m} 7. Qxd5
{-1.63/13 1:34m} Rxd5 {+1.62/15 7s} 8. a4 {-1.31/18 1:19m}
a6 {+1.35/18 1:17m} 9. Rh6 {-1.07/19 1:38m} Kb7 {+1.10/19
1:14m} 10. Rf6 {-1.17/20 1:11m} Rd7 {+1.08/20 2:06m} 11. a5
{-1.00/20 1:07m} Re7 {+0.92/19 1:15m} 12. Kd2 {-0.93/20
1:18m} Re8 {+0.94/19 19s} 13. Rxf7+ {-0.79/19 1:00m} Kc6
{+0.43/16 6s} 14. Rxf4 {-0.90/20 1:20m} Kc5 {+0.76/20
1:14m} 15. Rf6 {-0.76/20 51s} Rd8+ {+0.96/20 1:26m} 16. Kc1
{-0.98/21 58s} Ra8 {+1.07/22 1:15m} 17. f4 {-1.02/22 1:42m}
Kb4 {+0.93/19 24s} 18. f5 {-0.89/19 1:03m} Kxa5 {+0.98/16
9s} 19. Rd6 {-1.04/19 1:09m} Re8 {+1.04/20 1:19m} 20. f6
{-1.19/20 1:48m} Re3 {+1.06/19 1:26m} 21. Kd2 {-0.99/19
1:25m} Rb3 {+1.01/19 2:03m} 22. Re6 {-1.05/18 2:01m} Rf3
{+1.23/19 1:27m} 23. Rc6 {-1.23/20 1:01m} b4 {+1.25/20
1:21m} 24. Rxc4 {-1.23/19 40s} Rxf6 {+1.25/21 1:05m} 25. b3
{-1.25/23 42s} Kb5 {+1.23/23 49s} 26. Rd4 {-1.22/23 51s}
Rc6 {+1.22/24 1:07m} 27. Re4 {-1.22/24 1:02m} a5 {+1.12/25
2:16m} 28. Rh4 {-1.07/22 39s} Rc3 {+1.07/23 53s} 29. Rh5+
{-1.07/24 54s} Kb6 {+1.07/25 1:59m} 30. Rh6+ {-1.07/24 48s}
Rc6 {+1.07/25 1:54m} 31. Rh5 {-1.07/19 5s} Rc8 {+1.07/22
59s} 32. Rh7 {-1.07/22 45s} Rc5 {+1.08/22 38s} 33. Rh8
{-1.08/20 8s} Rg5 {+1.08/22 53s} 34. Rh7 {-1.08/22 40s} Ka6
{+1.08/23 1:07m} 35. Kd3 {-1.08/23 1:33m} Rg3+ {+1.08/23
48s} 36. Kc2 {-1.08/25 55s} Rc3+ {+1.08/25 45s} 37. Kb2
{-1.08/26 47s} Rc8 {+1.08/28 47s} 38. Rh5 {-1.08/28 13s}
Kb6 {+1.08/28 1:40m} 39. Kb1 {-1.07/28 1:01m} Rc5 {+1.08/28
1:31m} 40. Rh6+ {-1.08/28 1:05m} Kb5 {+1.08/29 1:27m}
41. Kb2 {-1.08/27 45s} Rf5 {+1.08/27 1:20m} 42. Kc2
{-1.07/24 36s} Rf2+ {+1.07/21 4s} 43. Kc1 {-1.07/24 1:02m}
Kc5 {+1.07/24 36s} 44. Rh5+ {-1.07/24 1:15m} Kd4 {+0.82/25
1:34m} 45. Kb1 {-0.80/24 1:16m} Re2 {+0.80/25 34s} 46. Rxa5
{-0.55/25 1:31m} Re5 {+0.36/24 27s} 47. Ra8 {-0.36/25
1:19m} Kc3 {+0.11/24 1:10m} 48. Rg8 {-0.10/25 40s} Re1+
{+0.10/28 57s} 49. Ka2 {-0.10/7 0s} 1/2-1/2

The position I stopped it at was this:

[D} 6R1/8/8/8/1p6/1Pk5/K7/4r3 b - -

Andy.



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