Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 11:35:38 10/16/04
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On October 16, 2004 at 11:59:10, enrico carrisco wrote: >On October 16, 2004 at 04:54:30, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On October 15, 2004 at 23:23:04, enrico carrisco wrote: >> >>>On October 15, 2004 at 20:51:28, Albert Silver wrote: >>> >>>>On October 15, 2004 at 18:17:46, enrico carrisco wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 15, 2004 at 10:23:14, Albert Silver wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 14, 2004 at 20:40:26, Fernando Villegas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>He does now. >>>>>>>Fdo >>>>>> >>>>>>He has for quite some time. I am fairly sure I recall reading he had Fritz 6 and >>>>>>a couple of other programs he tested against in the past. Now I'm sure there >>>>>>will be others, such as the latest Fritz and especially Shredder. Really amazing >>>>>>how Shredder dominates the comp-comp playing field. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Well, like I've always felt -- testing against other programs during development >>>>>is a good way to gauge progress and find weakpoints in your additions, but I >>>>>hope we aren't moving towards "specific tuning" vs. other programs. >>>>> >>>>>That is not an asset to computer chess at all -- it's actually quite disgusting. >>>>> >>>>>-elc. >>>> >>>>Well, if he can 'tune' against Shredder, Fritz, Junior, Hiarcs, AND Pro Deo.... >>>>all I can say is "wow". :-) >>>> >>>> Albert >>> >>>Yes, of course "wow" -- because that is adding strength/knowledge in a general >>>"overall" sense (the honest way.) >>> >>>Now if all the above engines were tuned against and the tuned program had a >>>parameters menu that asked which engine it was playing -- we're back to the >>>disgusting territory. :) >> >>Which program has that feature? >> >>Sandro > >None that I know of.. I was just explaining the worst (possible) case scenario >of what an author could do that was doing specific tuning against other engines. > As I said in a previous messages, I sincerely hope things don't move in that >direction. I do not think so either. If the customers realize "such a work" for improving the engine they will not buy it. I think that we will see improvements on the book in all directions, but as a general improvements and not specific improvements versus a specific chess program. I mean that the chess programs will specialize more and more in the openings, owing more and more powerful openings book, and soon they will become the reference for theory updates data. This is where chess seems to go, however Fisher was wrong stating that there is little to find on chess as far is openings theory is concerned. About this, 32 years after he became World Champion opening theory is only about 80% correct...so a lot has to be found yet... Sandro > >-elc.
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