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Subject: Re: Question about Shredder evaluation with a ce I do not understand.

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 18:00:09 10/18/04

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On October 18, 2004 at 20:51:54, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 18, 2004 at 20:08:03, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>Here is the position, and the last line of Shredder's analysis turned into
>>standard EPD tags:
>>[D]r4rk1/5b1p/p1np4/1p1Nbpq1/4pP2/2P1N3/PPB3PP/R2Q1RK1 b - f3 acd 19; acn
>>2307394494; ce -499; id "-XTDa.367631-"; pv Bxf4 Nxf4 Rad8 h4 Qf6 Nfd5 Qxh4 Nxf5
>>Qg5 Bxe4 Kh8 Qc1 Qg6 Qd2 Ne5 a4 Bxd5 Qxd5 Rf6;
>>
>>Here is a copy of the positino after the pv is executed:
>>[D]3r3k/7p/p2p1rq1/1p1QnN2/P3B3/2P5/1P4P1/R4RK1 w - -
>
>White has bishop advantage.
>
>>
>>Shredder's analysis:
>>    Best move (Shredder 7.04 UCI): Be5xf4
>>     2/2-	00:00	         154	2.483	-3.31	Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Bf7xd5 Ne3xd5
>>     2/4	00:00	         155	2.500	-2.79	Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Bf7xd5 Ne3xd5
>>     3/3-	00:00	         249	4.016	-3.31	Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Bf7xd5 Ne3xd5
>>     3/4	00:00	         250	4.032	-2.79	Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Bf7xd5 Ne3xd5
>>     4/4-	00:00	         675	10.887	-3.31	Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Bf7xd5 Ne3xd5
>>     4/4	00:00	         684	11.032	-2.06	Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Bf7xd5 Ne3xd5
>>     5/14-	00:00	       2.588	41.741	-2.39	Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Qg5e7
>>     5/14-	00:00	       2.681	34.371	-2.90	Be5xf4 Rf1xf4 Bf7h5 Qd1b1 Nc6e5
>>     5/15	00:00	       7.082	90.794	-3.71	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Ra8d8 Bc2b3 Bf7xb3
>>Qd1xb3+ Kg8h8
>>     6/11	00:00	      24.257	222.541	-3.57	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Ra8d8 Bc2b3 Nc6e5 a2a4
>>     7/15	00:00	      50.554	324.064	-3.74	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Ra8d8 Qd1d2 Bf7c4
>>Ne3xc4 b5xc4
>>     8/18	00:00	     130.774	419.147	-3.88	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Ra8d8 Qd1d2 b5b4 Bc2b3
>>b4xc3 Bb3xf7+ Rf8xf7 Qd2xc3
>>     9/23+	00:01	     324.621	451.489	-3.63	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Nc6e5 Qd1xd6 Ne5f3+
>>Kg1h1 Rf8d8 Qd6a3 Qg5xf4 Qa3f8+ Kg8xf8
>>     9/23	00:01	     402.476	468.540	-3.61	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Nc6e5 h2h4 Qg5d8 Ne3xf5
>>Bf7c4 Nf4e2 Bc4d3
>>    10/22-	00:01	     534.317	474.948	-3.86	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Nc6e5 h2h4 Qg5d8
>>Ne3xf5 Bf7g6 Bc2xe4 Bg6xf5 Be4xa8 Qd8xh4
>>    10/23	00:01	     739.601	483.083	-4.10	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Nc6e5 h2h4 Qg5d8 Ne3xf5
>>Bf7c4 Bc2xe4 Rf8xf5 Be4xf5 Bc4xf1 Kg1xf1 Qd8xh4
>>    11/27	00:03	   1.739.593	499.309	-4.10	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Nc6e5 h2h4 Qg5d8 Ne3xf5
>>Bf7c4 Bc2xe4 Rf8xf5 Be4xf5 Bc4xf1 Kg1xf1 Qd8xh4
>>    12/29	00:09	   4.629.596	509.979	-4.15	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 d6d5 a2a4 Ra8d8 a4xb5
>>a6xb5 Qd1e2 d5d4 Qe2xb5 d4xe3 Qb5xc6
>>    13/29	00:19	   9.618.907	514.297	-4.04	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 d6d5 Bc2b3 Ra8d8 Bb3xd5
>>Bf7xd5 Ne3xd5 Qg5h6 Qd1e2 Nc6e5 Qe2g4+ f5xg4
>>    14/31-	00:37	  19.153.039	510.529	-4.29	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 d6d5 Nf4xd5 Bf7h5
>>Qd1e1 Ra8d8 Nd5c7 Nc6e5 Bc2b3+ Kg8h8 Nc7e6 Qg5xg2+ Kg1xg2 Rd8d2+ Qe1xd2
>>    14/37	01:23	  43.075.299	515.390	-4.66	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Ra8d8 h2h4 Qg5f6 Nf4d5
>>Qf6xh4 Ne3xf5 Qh4g5 Bc2xe4 Bf7g6 Qd1c1 Qg5h5 Nd5f4 Qh5g5
>>    15/37	03:26	 105.140.606	509.155	-4.89	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Ra8e8 Qd1xd6 Nc6e5 h2h4
>>Qg5d8 Ne3xf5 Bf7c4 Bc2xe4 Bc4xf1 Ra1xf1 Qd8xd6 Nf5xd6
>>    16/40	07:42	 235.181.125	508.344	-4.79	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Ra8d8 h2h4 Qg5f6 Nf4d5
>>Qf6xh4 Ne3xf5 Qh4g5 Bc2xe4 Bf7g6 Qd1c1 Qg5xc1 Ra1xc1 Rd8e8 Be4d3 Bg6xf5
>>    17/41	14:22	 438.906.486	509.070	-4.83	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Ra8d8 h2h4 Qg5f6 Nf4d5
>>Qf6xh4 Ne3xf5 Qh4g5 Bc2xe4 Bf7g6 Qd1c1 Qg5xc1 Ra1xc1 Rd8e8 Be4d3 Bg6xf5
>>    18/43	32:46	1.007.443.089	512.322	-4.91	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 d6d5 Nf4xd5 Bf7h5
>>Qd1e1 Ra8e8 Qe1f2 Re8e5 Qf2f4 Qg5g7 Bc2b3 Kg8h8 Qf4h4 Bh5e2 Rf1f2 Be2d3
>>    19/46	1:14:58	2.307.394,494	513.003	-4.99	Be5xf4 Nd5xf4 Ra8d8 h2h4 Qg5f6
>>Nf4d5 Qf6xh4 Ne3xf5 Qh4g5 Bc2xe4 Kg8h8 Qd1c1 Qg5g6 Qc1d2 Nc6e5 a2a4 Bf7xd5
>>Qd2xd5 Rf8f6
>>   10/17/2004 4:58:26 AM, Time for this analysis: 02:00:00, Rated time: 30:00:00
>>
>>I don't get it.  It looks about even to me.
>
>I do not understand what is even here when white has a decisive material
>advantage.
>
>Uri

Quit right.  I can't count.

So it appears that the blunderless games posted a few days back were not
blunderless after all.  It is just that neither party saw the blunder.



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