Author: Stuart Cracraft
Date: 21:19:30 10/18/04
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On October 18, 2004 at 20:45:05, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 18, 2004 at 19:36:21, Yar wrote: > >>On October 18, 2004 at 17:24:07, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On October 18, 2004 at 17:16:02, Gabor Szots wrote: >>> >>>>On October 18, 2004 at 16:54:53, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 18, 2004 at 14:50:06, Gabor Szots wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Although - being a Hungarian - a bit sadly, let me congratulate Kramnyik on >>>>>>defending his title. He deserves it. Yes, if Leko had won I would feel the same. >>>>>>For me this match proves once again how hard it is not to lose when you don't >>>>>>want to win. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I do not understand. >>>>> >>>>>Leko had no reason not to want to win. >>>>>He had only a reason not to want to lose. >>>>> >>>>>You do not want to win only if win is worse than a draw for you and it was not >>>>>Leko's situation. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>I meant his only goal was to achieve a draw, and this led to too passive play, >>>>in which he is not good. >>>> >>>>Gábor >>> >>>This is a bad goal. >>> >>>a goal of getting at least a draw is more logical. >>>Playing passive is not good for that goal because it does not increase the >>>chances of achieving at least a draw. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Uri, >> >>Every professional player knows, if u _will_ play for draw, you will lose >>someday. > >simple logic say that if you need a draw you should play in order to maximize >your chances not to lose(it may mean forcing repetition in a slghtly better >position but not playing in a passive way) > >It seems that your definition of playing for a draw is not the same as playing >in order to maximize your chances not to lose. > >Uri And this is all ultimately why computers will be not just good for the game but may save chess's proverbial butt. Human masters have made draws the norm of chess. And I doubt chess programs or their programmers will be satisfied in doing the same. Stuart
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