Author: Chessfun
Date: 21:53:12 10/23/04
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On October 23, 2004 at 06:07:54, Ingo Bauer wrote: >Hello > >Intension of this match was to get a FIRST impression of the new Tiger 2004! > >Matchconditions: > >1. ONE Athlon XP @ 2500 MHz (ca. P4 - 3400) >2. Ponder off >3. 192 MB Hash for each Engine >4. all 3,4 and 5 pcs Tablebases with 64 MB Cache for each Engine >5. Connected via Autoplayer - Network >6. Chess Tiger 2004 >6.1 Style Normal >6.2 Book: CT.ctk >6.2.1 Bookvariants at 50% (default) >6.2.2 Booklern at 50% (default) >6.3 Chesspartner 5.3.0.47 GUI >6.4 Master-Autoplayer / Extended and Fast on >7. Shredder 8 UCI >7.1 Book: Shredder8a.bkt >7.1.1 Turniermodus >7.1.2 Resultlearning on >7.1.3 Booklearning on >7.1.4 Everything else at default >7.2 Shredder Classic 1.1 GUI >7.3 Autoplayer slave / Extended and Fast on >8. ALL lerning deleted prior to the match >9. ALL learning ON during the match >10. 50 Games >11. Game in 15 minutes plus 10 seconds each move > > >Result: 31.5 - 18.5 for Shredder 8 (+92 Elo) > >50 +20 =23 -7 63.0% TP = +92 Elo 68%->[+58,+133] 95%->[+25,+177] >99.7%->[-6,+228] > > >Remark: > >Average time per game was 48 minutes. The setting for Shredder where optimal, >maybe there is a possibility to improve some settings inside the chesspartner >GUI, maybe the time control did not "fit" to Tiger, maybe the number of draws >would rise if the time control would be longer ... I consider the 92 Elos as the >worst possible result, the real gap between the engines might be smaller! > >Have a look at game no. 34. The 15th move is the first out of book by Shredder. >I consider this as a hole in the Tiger 2004 book! >[Event "15 Minutes/Game + 10 Seconds/Move"] >[Site "T2004-S8"] >[Date "2004.10.22"] >[Round "34"] >[White "Shredder 8"] >[Black "Chess Tiger 2004 Normal Style"] >[Result "1-0"] > >1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 >e6 7. f4 Nbd7 8. Qf3 Qc7 9. O-O-O b5 10. Bd3 Bb7 11. Rhe1 >Be7 12. Nd5 exd5 13. Nf5 Kf8 14. exd5 Re8 15. Nxg7 Kxg7 >16. Qg3 Nh5 17. Qg4 f6 18. Bh4+ Kf8 19. Qxh5 h6 20. Bf5 Qc4 >21. Bxd7 Rc8 22. Bxc8 Qxf4+ 23. Kb1 Bxc8 24. Rxe7 Kxe7 >25. Bg3 Qb4 26. Qg6 Qc5 27. Qg7+ Kd8 28. Qxh8+ Kc7 29. Qxf6 >Bg4 30. Bf2 Qc4 31. b3 Qe4 32. Re1 Qxd5 33. Re8 Qe6 >34. Qd8+ Kc6 35. Qa8+ Kc7 36. Rb8 Qc8 37. Qa7+ Kc6 >38. Rxc8+ Bxc8 39. Qe7 a5 40. Bg3 Bf5 41. Qxd6+ Kb7 >42. Qc7+ Ka6 43. Bf2 Bxc2+ 44. Kxc2 h5 45. Qc6# 1-0 Indeed an interesting game. As you know Tiger shows 14...Re8 as book. Clearly this move losses to 15. Nxg7. Tiger actually wants to play 14...Bd8 which it scores as +2.16 depth 15. Personally I don't like the time control and I don't know if this version has issues with the "inc" or not. I can tell you I ran a lot of games v Shredder 8 at 40/40 with the following results: AMD XP 2600, ERT. Tiger 96 mb standard book. Shredder 8 104 Mb 2600.bk. 3, 4 and 5 piece bases 32mb. ChessTiger 2004 gambit v Shredder 8 +7 -6 =15 ChessTiger 2004 normal v Shredder 8 +7 -14 =19 Sarah.
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