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Subject: Best for chess is... Re: CPU's and Spec int 2000 questions

Author: Ernest Bonnem

Date: 11:56:08 10/24/04

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...the AMD Athlon 64 3400+ , the one with 512K level 2 cache, which is 2.4GHz.

It costs between 200 and 300 $ or Euros !



On October 23, 2004 at 16:43:25, Michel Langeveld wrote:

>I would like to buy a new PC. A difficult choice because there are so many
>processors out at the moment. I also don't know for sure if I have to buy a
>faster dual PC or with the same money a bit stronger single cpu-PC:
>
>The Intel (P4, Xeon, Celeron, etc) loose against all AMD's at the moment with
>Computer Chess.
>
>The fastest AMD cpu's available at the moment are:
>* AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 (S939, 2,6GHz, 1MB, Boxed)
>* AMD Opteron 250 (S940, 2,4GHz, 1MB, Boxed)
>* AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (S939, 2,4 GHz, 1MB, Boxed)
>* AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (S-A, 2,20GHz, 512KB, 400MHz FSB, Boxed)
>* AMD Athlon MP 2800+ (S-A, 2,13GHz, 512KB, 266MHz FSB, Boxed)
>* AMD Duron 1800 (S-A, 1,80GHz, 64KB, 266MHz FSB)
>* AMD Sempron 3100+ (S754, 1,8GHz, 256KB, 333MHz FSB, Boxed)
>
>Prices vary a lot. The prices of the FX-55, Opteron 250, Athlon 64 4000+ are
>quiet absurd.
>
>If I take only cpu's <= E 300 then I come to:
>* AMD Opteron 146 (S940, 2,0GHz, 1MB, Boxed)                     € 303,-
>* AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (S939, 2,2GHz, 512KB, Boxed)               € 287,95
>* AMD Athlon MP 2800+ (S-A, 2,13GHz, 512KB, 266MHz FSB, Boxed)   € 205,-
>* AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (S-A, 2,20GHz, 512KB, 400MHz FSB, Boxed)   € 202,-
>* AMD Duron 1800 (S-A, 1,80GHz, 64KB, 266MHz FSB)                € 47,-
>* AMD Sempron 3100+ (S754, 1,8GHz, 256KB, 333MHz FSB, Boxed)     € 127,-
>
>If I look in Spec CPU 2000(CINT 2000)
>[http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/cpu2000.html] what are the results of these
>cpu's then I find that almost none of these are in spec int 2000 :-). Only the
>opteron 146 is given with a score of:
>
>73.0   = AMD Opteron (TM) 146
>
>My current cpu is:
>
>237    = Pentium III 800Mhz
>
>So this cpu is 3,25 times faster.
>
>Question 1) Does some knows what the other cpu's are about worth?
>Question 2) Why are they not included in spec int 2000 anymore?
>
>The fastest published Spec Int 2000 result is:
>
>45.6 = AMD Opteron (TM) 150 (2.4Ghz)
>     - os: SuSE Linux 8.0 SLES 64 bit (SP3)
>     - compiler: SuSE optional gcc 3.3 compiler (20030312) (from SLES8 SP3)
>
>On windows 2003 this processor makes (I took the Opteron 250 here ... but it
>doesn't matter a lot):
>
>58.6 - AMD Opteron (TM) 250 (2.4Ghz)
>     - Microsoft Windows Server 2003
>     - Intel C++ 8.0 build 20031229Z
>
>Question 3) Why is there such a big difference between Windows 2003 and Linux?
>            Does the compiler / os is not fully 64bit?
>
>On this Windows XP the FX-55 makes:
>
>53.8  = AMD Athlon (TM) 64 FX-55(2.6 Ghz)
>
>Question 4) Wouldn't the FX-55 ran much faster if it was running on Linux (suse
>too) ? Wouldn't this generate the best crafty single cpu benchmark ever?
>
>Michel



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