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Subject: Re: The poll question.

Author: blass uri

Date: 13:10:14 01/13/99

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On January 13, 1999 at 11:11:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 13, 1999 at 00:30:07, Howard Exner wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 1999 at 09:14:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>As a note, deep thought running at under 2M nodes per second produced a true
>>>GM rating over 24 consecutive games to claim the fredkin level 2 prize.  I
>>>don't know of any program that could do that today.  IE fritz only needs to go
>>>3-4x faster to reach this speed.  Yet I haven't seen it win a game vs a GM at
>>>tournament time controls, much less perform at 2600+ over 24 consecutive games
>>>at 40/2 games...
>>
>>This observation of Fritz vs GM's at 40/2 can be countered with your own words.
>>You've reprimanded folks for them saying, Deep Thought/Blue did not
>>win all the ACM events by correctly pointing out that how could
>>they have won them all when they were not entered in them all. (Recall
>>your argument to the statement "Deep Blue has not won a recent computer
>>event") Well ... ?
>>
>>How can Fritz achieve this if it is not entered in 40/2 GM encounters?
>>
>>Yes I agree that DT's GM rating based on the 24 consecutive games is a great
>>accomplishment. Why the comparison to Fritz ?
>
>
>I didn't bring fritz up.  It came from the poster I responded to that made the
>statement that fritz at 2M nodes per second might do better than DB.

I did not mean to DB when I made the statement that Fritz at 2M nodes per second
could do better results against the same opponents but to Deep thought.

I think that Fritz has a problem against humans because it is commercial so the
opponents can know the weaknesses of it from experience.

Deep thought was not commercial so the opponents cannot play against it at home.

They could see previous games of Deep thought but it is not the same.

Uri





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