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Subject: Re: Aristarch, List and ProDeo perhaps stronger than 2800 with new hardw

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:12:07 10/25/04

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On October 25, 2004 at 16:44:35, Albert Silver wrote:

>On October 25, 2004 at 16:21:04, Dimitris Poulos wrote:
>
>>On October 25, 2004 at 12:58:55, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On October 25, 2004 at 12:48:39, Andre van Ark wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>snip:
>>>>-----------------------------
>>>>>I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that if the SSDF were to upgrade to Athlon
>>>>>3000XP+ machines, the amateur engines would profit from the upgrade and be
>>>>>stronger than the top commercial engines running on those same Athlon 3000XP+
>>>>>machines?
>>>>----------------------------
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>No, Dimitris means for example Aristarch on XP3000 vs Shredder (elo  appr. 2800)
>>>>on Athlon 1200.
>>>
>>>That's not quite the way he phrased it:
>>>
>>>"Then Aristarch would be a nice candidate to top the list"
>>>
>>>"It would be a nice new circle begining with amateurs topping the list! IMO"
>>>
>>>Twice he says the amateurs would top the list. Top the list means being the best
>>>as I see it.
>>>
>>
>>Hi, I mean what Andre said.
>>
>>>>I would put my money on Shredder in a long match despite the slower hardware.
>>>
>>>Either way, I don't see how gaining about 60 SSDF points would enable Aristarch
>>>to top Shredder 8 on an A1200, unless it is already as strong as Hiarcs 9, if
>>>not more.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Looking at the WBEC results of Aristarch I think it is.
>>
>>Dimitris
>
>It's a nice result, but only one commercial engine other than Ruffian 2.1 was
>used. Furthermore, the site suggests that Ruffian 2 is rated slightly *higher*
>than Shredder, an idea I find ludicrous.

Ignore the rating
The site admits that shredder's rating is an estimate that is not based on
games.

Let look at the results
1)Shredder8 is not used
1: Shredder 7.04             44.5 / 64
2: Aristarch 4.50            42.0 / 64

I cannot get conclusions based on these results.

Based on another rating list I find

http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67213/messages/3589.htm

1 Shredder 8.0                   : 2764   47  55   130    68.1 %   2632   33.1 %
4 Aristarch 4.50                 : 2693   54  53   130    58.1 %   2637   25.4 %


Uri



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