Author: Uri Blass
Date: 09:24:07 10/27/04
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On October 27, 2004 at 06:28:31, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote: >On October 27, 2004 at 06:19:48, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 26, 2004 at 19:44:30, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote: >> >>>On October 26, 2004 at 19:38:30, Andrew Platt wrote: >>> >>>>On October 26, 2004 at 18:08:06, Dmitri wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi, >>>>> >>>>>I am looking for a place on the net to play correspondance chess and use a >>>>>computer to assiast with blunder checks and tactical positions. Sort of advanced >>>>>correspondace chess, but my problem is most places consider this cheating and i >>>>>don't want to cheat. So my question is are there any organizations that allow >>>>>this? >>>>> >>>>>With regards, >>>>>Dmitri > >>>>iecg.org allows it though most players I know wouldn't want to play against >>>>someone using a computer to help. >>>> >>>>Andy. > >>>Well, I understand that support from a third party (foreign chess program) is >>>not always accepted as fair and legal. But how is the situation, when the player >>>uses a program he has written by himself? >>> >>>Reinhard > >>I think that the situation is the same because it is not a competition of >>programmers. >> >>Having a competition of team of a programmer and his(her) program can be an >>interesting idea but unfortunately it seems that most programmers do not support >>it so I see no tournament of programmers when the programmers are allowed to >>change the recommended move of the program during the game. >> >>Uri > >Indeed there is a difference between a competition of chess programs and chess >programmers. The direction of my posting nevertheless is different. Active chess >players invest their time in having good chess knowledge, a good sorted and >present library, a lot of game notations etc.. Programmers have invested their >time in creating one or several programs. When playing email chess active >players could not be forced to forget all their chess knowledge, so why demand >for chess programmers to avoid their grown knowledge packed into a chess >program? > >Reinhard. If computers are not allowed there should be no exception for programmers unless the humans who compete agreed to this exception. There is no rule that force programmers to forget their chess knowledge. They may use the same algorithm that they designed for their program to play if they do not use a computer. The problem with computers is simply that computers are faster and give humans who do not use them worse chances. programmers who use their chess program to analyze usually have a big advantage against chess players who use their brain espacially when the best players usually do not play correspondence chess and you do not see kasparov or kramnik play correspondence chess and usually correspondence players who do not use computers to help them are amateurs and are often weaker than big part of the programmers(there are some programmers with rating above 2000 and most correspondence players are with rating below 2000 in normal games). Uri
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