Author: Albert Silver
Date: 13:21:03 10/29/04
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On October 29, 2004 at 15:47:28, Sune Fischer wrote:
>On October 29, 2004 at 08:52:00, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>>>> 3 Deep Fritz 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2790 26 -25 855 72% 2625
>>>>> 6 Deep Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2769 24 -24 898 66% 2655
>>>>> 7 Fritz 8.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2759 22 -22 1043 65% 2649
>>>>>10 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2744 29 -28 634 63% 2653
>>>>>16 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2718 30 -29 571 61% 2642
>>>>>28 Deep Fritz 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2655 31 -31 498 53% 2637
>>>>>29 Deep Fritz 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2650 22 -21 1071 58% 2590
>>>>>35 Fritz 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2633 38 -37 348 53% 2611
>>
>>>>> 1 Shredder 8.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2818 34 -32 481 70% 2673
>>>>> 2 Shredder 7.04 UCI 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2809 24 -23 967 71% 2648
>>>>> 5 Shredder 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2772 27 -25 801 70% 2624
>>>>>11 Shredder 6.0 Pad UCI 256MB Athlon 1200 2725 22 -22 1033 62% 2642
>>>>>12 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2723 31 -30 547 62% 2634
>>>>>19 Shredder 7.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2699 34 -34 429 54% 2669
>>>>>26 Shredder 5.32 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2663 26 -26 739 50% 2661
>>>>>37 Shredder 6.0 UCI 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2618 43 -43 264 52% 2607
>>
>>>>The comparison is relative to other amateurs.
>>>
>>>Why the comparision to Crafty? Bob has won two world championships and has been
>>>chess programming longer than most of the other authors have been on the face of
>>>the earth. I agree that perhaps other "amatuers" should be tested - but not at
>>>the expense of Crafty. We can go with few less testing of the professionals
>>>(imo) as shown above. Do we really need 4 different flavors of Frizt 7?
>>
>>I'll defend those 4 flavors actually. For one thing, it is known that Deep Fritz
>>7 is more than an SMP version of Fritz 7, it is an upgrade of the engine, even
>>on a single CPU. Also, the testing on more than one hardware configuration has
>>provided many fascinating results, allowing us to better understand how much is
>>gained by doubling or tripling the raw processing power.
>>
>>I wouldn't take away Crafty of course, which more or less paved the way by being
>>the first amateur to be tested on the list if I'm not mistaken. However, it
>>really would be nice to see some of the other very strong amateurs also tested.
>>
>> Albert
>
>I think it's a waste of time to test deep fritz on single processor systems.
>
>Either you have a dual and want to see how the deep programs do on duals, or you
>don't have a dual and so you would instead buy the version optimized for single
>processor.
I'm afraid you missed the comment that Deep Fritz 7 is not merely a
multi-processor version of Fritz 7, it is an improved engine even on a single
CPU. Of course, that improvement is not worth the double price tag it comes
with.
>
>But also in light of the constant race for amateurs trying to catch up, more
>information on this would be interesting. Are amateurs catching up or do the top
>professionals increase their lead?
Yes, I agree and would like to see some of the amateurs tested as well.
>All in all the flood of fritzes is rather boring, IMO.
I understand, and agree it is overdone. The desire is to keep an impression of
improvement and innovation, but twice already (Fritz 6 and 8) the released
version wasn't really a significant improvement, and needed to wait a number of
patches to show the promised progress.
Albert
>
>-S.
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