Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 04:32:07 11/02/04
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On November 02, 2004 at 07:03:49, José Carlos wrote: >On November 02, 2004 at 04:54:08, Uri Blass wrote: > >>I am considering to release a new free version of movei. >> >>The latest version has a lot of options to change personality and my guess is >>that it is possible to get at least 50 elo only by changing evaluation and >>search parameters(It is probably possible to get more from movei than from >>programs when changing personalities were already tested more heavily like >>prodeo). >> >>The question is if to release new free version and hope that people will give me >>a personality that does significantly better or to give the version only to few >>beta testers that will need to test different personalities(if there are people >>who are interested). >> >>I am not interested in tournaments that include only one version of movei but >>games at different time control with different personalities from blitz to long >>time control may be productive for me. >> >>My question is how many testers are interested in testing different >>personalities in one of the following cases: >> >>1)If I send it only to beta testers. >>2)If I release it as a free version. >> >>please tell me if you are interested to test it in case 1 and in case 2 and I >>will decide if to release a free version or only give beta version to people who >>ask me based on the replies. >> >>Uri > > Averno has personalities option for some years now. So far, nobody has sent me >a new personality. AFAIK, no one has even tried changing one parameter. So for >last version, I decided to remove most personality options and hardcoded what I >considered best. > Thus, I suggest you to look for a beta tester. > > José C. Hi José, your engine comes really early to the group of available WB Engines. I am sure you know the most of the first available WB Engines. One of this engines is Gromit 2.x. Frank Schneider added some additional possibilities to make changes in the program for users. In this time more and more engines are available and I gave me the question: What I have to do with the interest I have! To see more amateur programs or to work with a hand full and to try to find out the best settings if possible. So I look in the configuration file from Frank Schneider, I am thinking and thinking and my decision is ... More interest to see a lot of programs in my tourney as to find out the best settings for one program. But in fact the ideas Frank Schneider have are great and I wonder that I can't read in fora systems about experiments with the Gromit settings. And now the different to the commercials. Here the group of users are persons with have other interest. The most will have the strongest chess programs for analyses and try to find out the best setting. A good example is TheKing. Give me one TheKing user which try to make the same work with an Amateur program? I mean, for commercial engines the settings are a good idea, for stronger programs the settings are a good idea (like the settings from Ed but I never have interest to try to find out better settings in the time I have). The most users of amateur programs have interest to play with a lot of all these great developements and will directly have the best settings by the programmers. Perhaps a hand full hardcore "Boarders" try to find out the best settings for amateur programs. The reason I say for 2-3 monhts thanks to Robert Allgeuer with his great Fruit experiments, he reported his results in CCC. Other example: Aristarch, Aristarch have in the first versions a lot of possibilities to try different settings. I believe the programmer killed this options because he never got good output by users. I am not sure in the case of Aristarch but if I look in newer Aristarch versions I missed this options. And Aristarch is perhaps with List and Pro Deo the best free available engine! Just my opinion about it ... Best Frank
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