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Subject: Re: Commercial release versions of chess software ... bad and good!

Author: Peter Darin

Date: 01:40:24 11/05/04

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On November 05, 2004 at 01:43:56, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On November 05, 2004 at 01:27:22, Gregory Owett wrote:
>
>>On November 04, 2004 at 13:27:12, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>
>>>On November 04, 2004 at 13:20:53, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 13:13:30, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>And Shredder ...
>>>>>Shredder is the number one in version 7.04 or 8.0.
>>>>>Every little improvment Stefan can for sell because Stefan is the number 1!
>>>>>A little advantage for Stefan Meyer-Kahlen. Shredder 9.0 only 20 ELO more and we
>>>>>are happy, clear that nobody can find out that a program from around 2.700 ELO
>>>>>is improved with 20 ElO.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>sorry but this is not fully correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>Shredder 8 CB was the upgrade to Shredder 7 CB look the SSDF list to see how
>>>>>much better it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>Shredder 8 UCI is the upgrade of Shredder 704 UCI (In this case one needs to buy
>>>>>Shredder 8 CB and register for Shredder Classic. One can argue that this is more
>>>>>expensive than Shredder 7, but still less than Deep Fritz 8)
>>>>>
>>>>>Unfortunately SSDF did not test Shredder 8 UCI with Shredder Classic interface,
>>>>>but it is sure it is stronger than Shredder 8 CB, so the above statements are
>>>>>not 100% correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also it is not true that we would be happy with 20 Elo points improvements. We
>>>>>are working a lot to make real improvements...if we are quiet it is because we
>>>>>are working.
>>>>>
>>>>>We are not making any claims because the new version is not ready, so we do not
>>>>>know yet how much stronger it will be...I call this "professional".
>>>>>
>>>>>Sandro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Just a quick question. I saw in the thread announcing the SSDF results between
>>>>Shredder 8 and CT2004 that both you and Stefan think that Shredder Classic 1.1
>>>>is stronger than Shredder 8. Is this true or was there a misunderstanding on
>>>>some level?
>>>
>>>Shredder Classic 1.1 is the latest version of the interface.
>>>
>>>We believe Shredder 8 UCI running on Shredder Classice 1.1 interface with
>>>Shredder8a.bkt is the strongest commmercial version of Shredder 8.
>>>
>>>We believe it is about 25 points stronger than Shredder 8CB
>>>
>>>To get that one needs to buy Shredder 8 CB and register to Shredder Classic in
>>>order to get the Shredder8a.bkt book free.
>>>
>>>Ciao
>>>Sandro
>>>
>>>>
>>>>                                          Albert
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>If You have Shredder Classic 6.1 interface, You can import Shredder8a.bkt free.
>>Can't You?
>
>Yes, if you registered.
>
>Sandro
>>
>>Gregory

I have Shredder 6.0. My query is if u have Shredder6 or 7, u will have classic
GUi which u can use to play with Shredder 8 engine. Will that be equivalent to
playing with Shredder8 in classic 1.1 GUI or spcial changes have been made to
GUI so Shredder8 will play at its full strength only in Shredder Classic 1.1 GUI
. If that the case i only need to buy Shredder 8 from Chessbase.

Peter



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