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Subject: Re: Commercial release versions of chess software ... bad and good!

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 03:41:20 11/05/04

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On November 04, 2004 at 17:26:08, Sandro Necchi wrote:

Hi,

I believe we have the same opinion :-)
So we don't have to discuss a longer time :-))

>I always supported the idea of promoting more than one program. I always told
>people to try to buy 2 or 3 programs every year based on the way they use the
>programs and to use them to learn if this is what they would like.
>Some people are not willing to lose games or too many games, but I am ready to
>lose them all if this can improve my way to play.
>I cannot do this with Kasparov as he would get bored soon, but a chess program
>will play forever the way a user want, so it is a marvellous tool to help people
>to improve their way to play.
>Now that we have programs playing close to the way I always wanted and good
>enough to be able to teach indirectly how to play. I mean winning and showing
>weaknesses on the opponents, most people do not buy them as they did some years
>ago.
>Many players keep saying that the ones they have are already too strong, so they
>do not need a stronger one.
>Well, if you let play latest chess programs against older ones one can see that
>they would be beaten easily most of the time. This shows that they were not so
>strong, but still weak and the players who do not know how to win are only
>weakers than them. The only way to learn is to be able to play against strongest
>players, after reading chess books and see what is in the books.
>I mean that more people should buy chess programs now that in the past like
>other computer games that are now much better as being more realistic also due
>to a better graphics...

I agree with you.

>No, I think everybody can have his own opinion and we have to respect other's
>opinions.

Yes!

>I do not like to judge other chess programs, but prefer other people to judge
>them.

This is right!
On the other hand not easy to give a comment if a keyboard is in the near :-)

>I get fun to make the openings book and I am satisfied if the people like them,
>but then immediately I start thinking how to make them better...maybe I am a
>little too crazy...I guess I am crazy about chess and chess programs since a
>long time...anybody has a medicine for this?

No Sandro!
One time computer chess, computer chess for ever!
You have the same problem as others and this is your problem to solved it.
You make it with your Shredder book, I have fun on the compatibility we have
today (my main interest, try to power it with Arena and I am happy that I found
Martin to do it). I am so far a happy computer chess player and have no more
wishes. All what I need for do my hobby I have, OK I am searching an older Chess
Computer modul (RISC 1 by Ed) :-))

Medicine:
A girlfriend with understandings is important!
The best medicine for me :-)

My girlfriend hold the cup in Leiden, we won with Ruffian.
Lisa sent the cup with a tablet of my favorite chocolate to Per-Ola :-)

We need more ladys in computer chess fora and the most of the discuss have an
other niveau.

A lot of things we do with Arena are ideas from Lisa and the ideas are good.
The secret lady of Arena developement :-)

Believe me a good medicine!
And she has Italien luck and temparament :-))

In the time we tested Ruffian without ponder vs. Shredder 7.04 Lisa give the
comment ... Frank give up, Ruffian is in the near but Shredder is a tic better!
I say Lisa wait, tomorrow in the morning you can see Ruffian is in front. She go
looking in the night and say to me, Frank today we drive an the town and make us
a good day before you go to your PC :-))

Best
Frank

>Ciao
>Sandro



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