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Subject: Re: Status - Crafty Classic 2004 SE PB and Crafty SE poll ...

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:58:35 11/05/04

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On November 05, 2004 at 07:11:22, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 04, 2004 at 21:59:06, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>I have commenced the effort to put forth my interpretation of the best of Crafty
>>for the year 2004.
>>
>>This modified Crafty will contain my interpretation of the best of Crafty 19.xx
>>for the year 2004.  It will have all the latest modified SE PB code, 4 new GM
>>personalities ( 28 GM personalities in total)  with a personalized book for each
>>GM created that will play the openings  that GM plays.  So far, I have decided
>>to add Kramnik and Leko -- I'm undecided about the other 2 GM personalities.
>>
>>Please let me know which other GM personalities you would like to see.  They can
>>be past or present, it helps if they were/are near the top.  I would prefer not
>>to add GMs under the age of 25 - Peter Leko just made it for my age requirement.
>>
>>I am also considering    Vishy Anand but feel free to submitt anyone you would
>>like to see.
>>
>>The code will not be from any one Crafty.  I had narrowed the base down to
>>between 19.12 and 19.8 -- and 19.8 won a 200 game tournament  61-40-99 (55%).  I
>>believe these earlier versions are stronger than the current Crafty 19.17 (just
>>my opinion ).  As a sanity check , I am now running this modified Crafty 19.8
>>(named Crafty Classic 2004 SE PB) against Crafty 19.17 .  It is not only
>>modified with the SE/PB code - I have also taken snippets of code from 19.12 and
>>19.17 that I believe "help" Crafty.  So it is in essence a modified Crafty with
>>SE/PB code but  in standard personality it will be unlike any Crafty that exist
>>today.  Hence, the name "Crafty Classic 2004 SE PB"  Whether it is better or not
>>than Crafty 19.17 , I will let you decide.
>
>Being better than Crafty19.17 is an easy job and it seems clear that almost
>every version of Crafty is better than 19.17.
>
>There is also some evidence that 19.15 is better than 19.17 and 19.13 is better
>than 19.17
>
>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ratingaegt2310.txt
>
>
>http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67828/messages/205.htm
>http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67828/messages/187.htm
>
>You can add the fact that the ssdf also found that 19.17 is probably weaker that
>previous version that they tesed.
>
>You can also add frank quinsky results when Crafty19.17 came last place with
>11/34 when Crafty19.15 had 15.5/34 against similiar opponents in round 3 and
>Crafty19.13 had 15/34 in round 2 and round 1.
>
>The opponents were changed but there was no big difference in the strength of
>the opponents.
>
>http://www.playwitharena.com/
>(see ATL league)
>
>I remember more tests that I was too lazy to search links for them.
>
>One of these tests may not be significant but when I combine all the data that
>different people found that 19.17 is weaker then it seems to be very
>significant.
>
>I remember no single test when 19.17 performed better than 19.15 or older
>version so there is probably some big bug in 19.17(in case that a version is
>only slightly weaker I can expect to see at least one tournament when it
>performs better out of many tournaments).
>
>Uri

If this is not enough we have another tournament when 19.13 scores better than
19.17

http://f27.parsimony.net/forum67828/messages/234.htm

Uri



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