Author: Uri Blass
Date: 10:00:52 11/05/04
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On November 05, 2004 at 12:41:29, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 05, 2004 at 07:11:22, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On November 04, 2004 at 21:59:06, Mike Byrne wrote: >> >>>I have commenced the effort to put forth my interpretation of the best of Crafty >>>for the year 2004. >>> >>>This modified Crafty will contain my interpretation of the best of Crafty 19.xx >>>for the year 2004. It will have all the latest modified SE PB code, 4 new GM >>>personalities ( 28 GM personalities in total) with a personalized book for each >>>GM created that will play the openings that GM plays. So far, I have decided >>>to add Kramnik and Leko -- I'm undecided about the other 2 GM personalities. >>> >>>Please let me know which other GM personalities you would like to see. They can >>>be past or present, it helps if they were/are near the top. I would prefer not >>>to add GMs under the age of 25 - Peter Leko just made it for my age requirement. >>> >>>I am also considering Vishy Anand but feel free to submitt anyone you would >>>like to see. >>> >>>The code will not be from any one Crafty. I had narrowed the base down to >>>between 19.12 and 19.8 -- and 19.8 won a 200 game tournament 61-40-99 (55%). I >>>believe these earlier versions are stronger than the current Crafty 19.17 (just >>>my opinion ). As a sanity check , I am now running this modified Crafty 19.8 >>>(named Crafty Classic 2004 SE PB) against Crafty 19.17 . It is not only >>>modified with the SE/PB code - I have also taken snippets of code from 19.12 and >>>19.17 that I believe "help" Crafty. So it is in essence a modified Crafty with >>>SE/PB code but in standard personality it will be unlike any Crafty that exist >>>today. Hence, the name "Crafty Classic 2004 SE PB" Whether it is better or not >>>than Crafty 19.17 , I will let you decide. >> >>Being better than Crafty19.17 is an easy job and it seems clear that almost >>every version of Crafty is better than 19.17. > >Most of what you write I tend to agree with. But not the above. I don't know >how it "seems clear" since 19.17 is playing perfectly well on ICC all the >time... It seems clear based on result of other people. I did not investigate what is the problem. One possibility is that for some reason the version that was released is not identical to the version that you use in ICC but when I see that the 19.17 performs worse than 19.13 or 19.15 in all tests that I read there must be some reason for it. > > >> >>There is also some evidence that 19.15 is better than 19.17 and 19.13 is better >>than 19.17 >> > > >You can read tea leaves and make these predictions also. But it doesn't mean >they are correct. I can guarantee you 19.13 is not better. It has _way_ too >many glitches that were fixed. one bug is enough in order to make the program weaker. The fact that you fixed glitches in 19.13 does not mean that 19.13 cannot be stronger than later versions. The result of 19.15 are also better than 19.17 based on the results that I read so it seems that if there is a problem it is between 19.15 and the released 19.17. Uri
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