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Subject: Re: Commercial release versions of chess software ... bad and good!

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 10:03:09 11/05/04

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On November 05, 2004 at 04:40:24, Peter Darin wrote:

>On November 05, 2004 at 01:43:56, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On November 05, 2004 at 01:27:22, Gregory Owett wrote:
>>
>>>On November 04, 2004 at 13:27:12, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 13:20:53, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 13:13:30, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>And Shredder ...
>>>>>>Shredder is the number one in version 7.04 or 8.0.
>>>>>>Every little improvment Stefan can for sell because Stefan is the number 1!
>>>>>>A little advantage for Stefan Meyer-Kahlen. Shredder 9.0 only 20 ELO more and we
>>>>>>are happy, clear that nobody can find out that a program from around 2.700 ELO
>>>>>>is improved with 20 ElO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>sorry but this is not fully correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shredder 8 CB was the upgrade to Shredder 7 CB look the SSDF list to see how
>>>>>>much better it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shredder 8 UCI is the upgrade of Shredder 704 UCI (In this case one needs to buy
>>>>>>Shredder 8 CB and register for Shredder Classic. One can argue that this is more
>>>>>>expensive than Shredder 7, but still less than Deep Fritz 8)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Unfortunately SSDF did not test Shredder 8 UCI with Shredder Classic interface,
>>>>>>but it is sure it is stronger than Shredder 8 CB, so the above statements are
>>>>>>not 100% correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also it is not true that we would be happy with 20 Elo points improvements. We
>>>>>>are working a lot to make real improvements...if we are quiet it is because we
>>>>>>are working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We are not making any claims because the new version is not ready, so we do not
>>>>>>know yet how much stronger it will be...I call this "professional".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sandro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Just a quick question. I saw in the thread announcing the SSDF results between
>>>>>Shredder 8 and CT2004 that both you and Stefan think that Shredder Classic 1.1
>>>>>is stronger than Shredder 8. Is this true or was there a misunderstanding on
>>>>>some level?
>>>>
>>>>Shredder Classic 1.1 is the latest version of the interface.
>>>>
>>>>We believe Shredder 8 UCI running on Shredder Classice 1.1 interface with
>>>>Shredder8a.bkt is the strongest commmercial version of Shredder 8.
>>>>
>>>>We believe it is about 25 points stronger than Shredder 8CB
>>>>
>>>>To get that one needs to buy Shredder 8 CB and register to Shredder Classic in
>>>>order to get the Shredder8a.bkt book free.
>>>>
>>>>Ciao
>>>>Sandro
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                                          Albert
>>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>If You have Shredder Classic 6.1 interface, You can import Shredder8a.bkt free.
>>>Can't You?
>>
>>Yes, if you registered.
>>
>>Sandro
>>>
>>>Gregory
>
>I have Shredder 6.0. My query is if u have Shredder6 or 7, u will have classic
>GUi which u can use to play with Shredder 8 engine. Will that be equivalent to
>playing with Shredder8 in classic 1.1 GUI or spcial changes have been made to
>GUI so Shredder8 will play at its full strength only in Shredder Classic 1.1 GUI
>. If that the case i only need to buy Shredder 8 from Chessbase.

To play at full strenght you need the latest book Shredder8a.bkt which you can
get only by registering and with Shredder Classic 1 or 1.1

Sandro

>
>Peter



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