Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 10:07:34 11/05/04
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On November 05, 2004 at 07:23:42, Torstein Hall wrote: >On November 05, 2004 at 01:47:46, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On November 04, 2004 at 18:37:03, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On November 04, 2004 at 13:19:10, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>> >>>>On November 04, 2004 at 11:27:43, Albert Silver wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 11:07:39, Tony Hedlund wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 09:30:52, Ziad Haddad wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Tony >>>>>>>When will the next list be updated? >>>>>> >>>>>>Probably when we have played enough games with CT 2004 (4-500). >>>>>> >>>>>>>What do u think about the New Tiger2004? >>>>>> >>>>>>It's not as strong as expected. >>>>>> >>>>>>>What are your expectations of his match >>>>>>>vs Shredder8? >>>>>> >>>>>>That it probably will loose. >>>>>> >>>>>>>Will you test Shredder Classic 1.1? >>>>>> >>>>>>No. >>>>>> >>>>>>>It seems that he's >>>>>> >>>>>>He? >>>>>> >>>>>>>stronger than Sh8. >>>>>> >>>>>>Stefan and Sandro think so, yes. >>>>>> >>>>>>Tony >>>> >>>>Hi, >>>>> >>>>>They really think Shredder Classic 1.1 is stronger than Shredder 8? I must have >>>>>missed that. Where was this stated? >>>> >>>>No, we stated that Shredder 8 UCI running on Shredder Classic GUI, with >>>>Shredder8a.bkt is the strongest commercial version of Shredder 8. >>>> >>>>There is a huge difference! >>>> >>>> >>>>If it's true, then IMHO, you should consider >>>>>testing it as Shredder 9 is only due out Summer of 2005 according to Sandro >>>>>(http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?393995) >>>> >>>>No, I stated that I think we will be able to make available Shredder 9 before >>>>the end of the year 2004. This is the plan, but we are still working on it, so >>>>we cannot make 100% sure statements (99.99999999%) >>> >>> >>>So you are saying that by end of 2004 there will already be a shredder 9 which >>>will be stronger than Shredder's 7.04 and 8, together? >> >>We believe we can achive this and we are working on it. >> >>As soon as we will be ready we will tell how much stronger Shredder 9 is >>compared to Shredder 8 CB as this one has been tested by the SSDF. >> >>>That would be greatly appreciated by me, for one, as I get the impression they >>>overlap each other at the momment. >> >>No if you use the UCI version (Shredder 8 UCI with Shredder Classic 1.1 + >>Shredder 8a.bkt) as this one will be about 25 points stronger than Shredder 8 >>CB. > >Why? Is it not the same engine with the same opening book? No, it is not. The engine runs about 2-3% faster (some people told me up to 7%) and the book is not the same. Also using Shredder8a.bkt in tournament mode only the best moves will be played (a to c) while the d moves will be played only when there are no a, b or c moves. Also the learning feature is different. >I find it strange >that the difference between CB and UCI interface should affect the strenght so >much. See above. I have been writing this at least 20 times so far... Sandro > >Torstein > >> >>>S.Taylor >> >>Sandro >> >>>> >>>>I said that if there will not be a 2005 WCCC we will try to arrange a revenge >>>>match against Hydra! >>>> >>>>I guess this got somehow mixed! >>>> >>>>Sandro >>>>> >>>>> Albert
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