Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 18:20:14 11/05/04
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On November 05, 2004 at 13:10:23, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On November 05, 2004 at 04:29:23, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On November 05, 2004 at 01:47:46, Sandro Necchi wrote: >> >>>On November 04, 2004 at 18:37:03, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>On November 04, 2004 at 13:19:10, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 11:27:43, Albert Silver wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 11:07:39, Tony Hedlund wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 09:30:52, Ziad Haddad wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi Tony >>>>>>>>When will the next list be updated? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Probably when we have played enough games with CT 2004 (4-500). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What do u think about the New Tiger2004? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It's not as strong as expected. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What are your expectations of his match >>>>>>>>vs Shredder8? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>That it probably will loose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Will you test Shredder Classic 1.1? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It seems that he's >>>>>>> >>>>>>>He? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>stronger than Sh8. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Stefan and Sandro think so, yes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Tony >>>>> >>>>>Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>>They really think Shredder Classic 1.1 is stronger than Shredder 8? I must have >>>>>>missed that. Where was this stated? >>>>> >>>>>No, we stated that Shredder 8 UCI running on Shredder Classic GUI, with >>>>>Shredder8a.bkt is the strongest commercial version of Shredder 8. >>>>> >>>>>There is a huge difference! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>If it's true, then IMHO, you should consider >>>>>>testing it as Shredder 9 is only due out Summer of 2005 according to Sandro >>>>>>(http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?393995) >>>>> >>>>>No, I stated that I think we will be able to make available Shredder 9 before >>>>>the end of the year 2004. This is the plan, but we are still working on it, so >>>>>we cannot make 100% sure statements (99.99999999%) >>>> >>>> >>>>So you are saying that by end of 2004 there will already be a shredder 9 which >>>>will be stronger than Shredder's 7.04 and 8, together? >>> >>>We believe we can achive this and we are working on it. >> >>I believe that many programmers can develop something stronger than shredder8 >>but the problem is that they will do it too late. >> >>I expect in 2014 to have at least 10 different free programs that are better >>than Shredder8. > >Yes, but what about Shredder 19? Yes, of course. That's what he meant by "they will do it too late". The current Crafty would mop the floor with the best professional programs of 1985. But it's not 1985 any more. Still, it is possible for some breakthroughs. The current Aristarch is stronger than several professional programs. Crafty might make some clustering revolution and ride on a giant Beowulf cluster to victory. Already, on very fast hardware, Crafty competes very well. There may be some idea that is a revolution like Alpha-Beta was that divides the work into a fraction. Shredder is in a class of his own. But it probably won't last forever. When Shredder 19 is out, maybe some unknown rises from obscurity and conquers the world.
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