Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 02:22:19 11/06/04
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On November 05, 2004 at 21:20:14, Dann Corbit wrote: >On November 05, 2004 at 13:10:23, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On November 05, 2004 at 04:29:23, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On November 05, 2004 at 01:47:46, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>> >>>>On November 04, 2004 at 18:37:03, stuart taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 13:19:10, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 11:27:43, Albert Silver wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 11:07:39, Tony Hedlund wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On November 04, 2004 at 09:30:52, Ziad Haddad wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hi Tony >>>>>>>>>When will the next list be updated? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Probably when we have played enough games with CT 2004 (4-500). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>What do u think about the New Tiger2004? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It's not as strong as expected. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>What are your expectations of his match >>>>>>>>>vs Shredder8? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>That it probably will loose. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Will you test Shredder Classic 1.1? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>No. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It seems that he's >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>He? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>stronger than Sh8. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Stefan and Sandro think so, yes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Tony >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>They really think Shredder Classic 1.1 is stronger than Shredder 8? I must have >>>>>>>missed that. Where was this stated? >>>>>> >>>>>>No, we stated that Shredder 8 UCI running on Shredder Classic GUI, with >>>>>>Shredder8a.bkt is the strongest commercial version of Shredder 8. >>>>>> >>>>>>There is a huge difference! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>If it's true, then IMHO, you should consider >>>>>>>testing it as Shredder 9 is only due out Summer of 2005 according to Sandro >>>>>>>(http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?393995) >>>>>> >>>>>>No, I stated that I think we will be able to make available Shredder 9 before >>>>>>the end of the year 2004. This is the plan, but we are still working on it, so >>>>>>we cannot make 100% sure statements (99.99999999%) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>So you are saying that by end of 2004 there will already be a shredder 9 which >>>>>will be stronger than Shredder's 7.04 and 8, together? >>>> >>>>We believe we can achive this and we are working on it. >>> >>>I believe that many programmers can develop something stronger than shredder8 >>>but the problem is that they will do it too late. >>> >>>I expect in 2014 to have at least 10 different free programs that are better >>>than Shredder8. >> >>Yes, but what about Shredder 19? > >Yes, of course. That's what he meant by "they will do it too late". I agree. >The >current Crafty would mop the floor with the best professional programs of 1985. >But it's not 1985 any more. > >Still, it is possible for some breakthroughs. The current Aristarch is stronger >than several professional programs. Crafty might make some clustering >revolution and ride on a giant Beowulf cluster to victory. Already, on very >fast hardware, Crafty competes very well. There may be some idea that is a >revolution like Alpha-Beta was that divides the work into a fraction. > >Shredder is in a class of his own. But it probably won't last forever. I think we would be happy if for 30 years more...:-)) We do not want to exaggerate:-) > >When Shredder 19 is out, maybe some unknown rises from obscurity and conquers >the world. It is possible of course. Sandro
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