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Subject: Re: Immortal game?

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 11:17:04 11/07/04

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On November 07, 2004 at 06:20:54, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>On November 07, 2004 at 05:59:16, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 07, 2004 at 05:23:27, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>Last night I played a game against my own brainchild, I sometimes still do that.
>>>The game got interesting when I played a wild sacrifice which I couldn't oversee
>>>till the end but as it seems is correct after all. It's my bet (in case the
>>>sacrifice is correct) no engine will find this move.
>>>
>>>I want to find out if the sac is correct so I can label this game as my own
>>>personal immortal game.
>>>
>>>Here is the game and the critical positions, please start your engines...
>>>
>>>[Event "Play for fun"]
>>>[Site "Deventer"]
>>>[Date "06.11.2004"]
>>>[Round "?"]
>>>[White "Ed"]
>>>[Black "Rebel 12"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[WhiteElo "?"]
>>>[BlackElo "?"]
>>>
>>>1. d4 Nf6 2. f3 d5 3. Nc3 c6 4. e4 e6 5. e5 Nfd7 6. f4 Bb4 7. Nf3 O-O 8.
>>>Bd3 c5 9. Ng5 g6 10. h4 cxd4 11. h5 dxc3 12. b3 Qc7 13. Nxh7 Nxe5 14. fxe5
>>>Qxe5+ 15. Kf1 Kxh7 16. hxg6+ Kg8 17. g7 Qf6+ 18. Ke1 Qxg7 19. Bh7+ Kh8
>>>20. Qh5 f5 21. Bg5 Nc6 22. Bxf5+ Kg8 23. Bh7+ Kh8 24. Be4+ Kg8 25. Bh6
>>>Qg3+ 26. Kd1 dxe4 27. Bg5 Qd6+ 28. Kc1 Qd7 29. Bf6 Qd2+ 30. Kb1 Qe1+ 31.
>>>Rxe1 Rxf6 32. Rh1 Kf8 33. Qh8+ Ke7 34. Rh7+ Rf7 35. a3 Bd6 36. Ka2 e5 37.
>>>Rah1 Nd8 38. R1h6 Bf5 39. Qf6+ Ke8 40. Rh8+ Bf8 41. Qxe5+ Kd7 42. Rf6 Rxf6
>>>43. Qxf6 Be6 44. Qxf8 *
>>>
>>>[d]rnbq1rk1/pp1n1p1p/4p1p1/3pP1N1/1b1p1P1P/2NB4/PPP3P1/R1BQK2R w KQ - bm h5;
>>>
>>>Position after 10..cxd4, move to find 11.h5!!
>>>
>>>[d]rnbq1rk1/pp1n1p1p/4p1p1/3pP1NP/1b3P2/1PpB4/P1P3P1/R1BQK2R b KQ - bm Qc7;
>>>
>>>12..Qc7 looks like a smart defence (see the game) but is it really the best
>>>move? Else I think the rest is forced. I think this is the critical position.
>>>
>>>[d]rnb2r1k/pp3pqB/4p3/3p4/1b6/1Pp5/P1P3P1/R1BQK2R w - - bm Qh5;
>>>
>>>Position after 19..Kh8, move to find 20.Qh5! This (I guess) will be already hard
>>>enough to find for many engines.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>bad test position.
>>
>>20.Bh7+ draw and after 20.Qh5 Nd7
>>Prodeo can see no more than a draw.
>>
>>Ed - Rebel 12, Play for fun 7
>>r1b2r1k/pp1n1pqB/4p3/3p3Q/1b6/1Pp5/P1P3P1/R1B1K2R w - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Pro Deo 1.0:
>>
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  65kN
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  157kN
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  350kN
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  797kN
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10   00:00:02  2758kN
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11   00:00:05  7080kN
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8 23.Qg5 Qxg5 24.Bd3+ Qh4+ 25.Rxh4+ Kg8 26.Rg4+ Kh8
>>27.Rh4+ Kg8 28.Rg4+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12   00:00:14  20085kN
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8 23.Qg5 Qxg5 24.Bd3+ Qh4+ 25.Rxh4+ Kg8 26.Rg4+ Kh8
>>27.Rh4+ Kg8 28.Rg4+ Kh8
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13   00:00:37  51646kN
>>21.Be4+ Kg8 22.Bh7+ Kh8 23.Qg5
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14   00:02:07  169256kN
>>
>>(, MyTown 07.11.2004)
>
>
>Shredder 8 agrees, nothing special after Qh5 :
>
>rnb2r1k/pp3pqB/4p3/3p3Q/1b6/1Pp5/P1P3P1/R1B1K2R b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>...
>  =  (0.03)   Profondeur: 11/37   00:00:01  254kN
>20...Cd7 21.Fg5 Fc5 22.Fe7 Fxe7 23.Fd3+ Rg8 24.Fh7+ Rh8 25.Fd3+ Rg8 26.Fh7+ Rh8
>27.Fd3+
>  =  (0.03)   Profondeur: 12/38   00:00:01  427kN
>20...Cd7 21.Fg5 Fc5 22.Fe7 Fxe7 23.Fd3+ Rg8 24.Fh7+ Rh8 25.Fd3+ Rg8 26.Fh7+ Rh8
>27.Fd3+
>  =  (0.03)   Profondeur: 13/29   00:00:02  687kN
>20...Cd7 21.Fg5 Fc5 22.Fe7 Fxe7 23.Fd3+ Rg8 24.Fh7+ Rh8 25.Fd3+ Rg8 26.Fh7+ Rh8
>27.Fd3+
>  =  (0.03)   Profondeur: 14/32   00:00:03  1129kN
>20...Cd7 21.Fg5 Fc5 22.Fe7 Fxe7 23.Fd3+ Rg8 24.Fh7+ Rh8 25.Fd3+ Rg8 26.Fh7+ Rh8
>27.Fd3+
>  =  (0.03)   Profondeur: 15/37   00:00:05  2017kN
>20...Cd7 21.Fg5 Fc5 22.Fe7 Fxe7 23.Fd3+
>  =  (0.03)   Profondeur: 16/43   00:00:14  5932kN
>20...Cd7 21.Fg5 Fc5 22.Fe7 Fxe7 23.Fd3+ Rg8 24.Fh7+ Rh8 25.Fd3+ Rg8 26.Fh7+ Rh8
>27.Fd3+
>  =  (0.04)   Profondeur: 17/45   00:00:38  16531kN
>20...Cd7 21.Fg5 Fc5 22.Rd1 e5 23.Ff5+ Rg8 24.Dh3 Ff2 25.Fh6 Dg3 26.Fxf8 Rxf8
>27.Dh6+ Re7 28.Df8+ Rxf8 29.Th8+
>  =  (0.05)   Profondeur: 18/49   00:03:54  101147kN
>20...Cd7 21.Fg5 a5 22.Rd1 e5 23.Ff5+ Rg8 24.Dh2 Ta6 25.Fh7+ Rh8 26.Fd3+ Rg8
>27.Fh7+ Rh8 28.Fd3+ Rg8 29.Fh7+ Rh8
>  =  (0.07)   Profondeur: 19/51   00:12:25  317819kN
>20...Cd7 21.Fg5 b6 22.Rd1 Fa6 23.a3 Fd6 24.Fh6 De5 25.Fg7+ Dxg7 26.Fd3+ Rg8
>27.Fh7+ Rh8 28.Fd3+ Rg8 29.Fh7+ Rh8 30.Fd3+
>  =  (0.07)   Profondeur: 20/57   00:32:54  803613kN

Agreed, 20..Nd7 is the right defense -> draw.

Ed



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