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Subject: Re: Test position

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 07:33:26 11/10/04

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On November 10, 2004 at 06:21:19, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On November 09, 2004 at 18:12:46, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On November 09, 2004 at 17:03:22, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>
>>>Completely correct. I didn't know it and must admit that I found it astonishing.
>>>
>>>                                            Albert
>>>
>>>[D]8/2p5/5p1p/5Bp1/3k4/2p2PbP/4K1P1/8 b - - 0 45
>>>
>>>[Event "URS-ch sf"]
>>>[Site ""]
>>>[Date "1973"]
>>>[Round ""]
>>>[White "Makarichev Sergey"]
>>>[Black "Averbakh Yuri L"]
>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>[Eco "C44"]
>>>[Annotator ""]
>>>[Source "EXT 2001"]
>>>[SetUp "1"]
>>>[FEN "8/2p5/5p1p/5Bp1/3k4/2p2PbP/4K1P1/8 b - - 0 45"]
>>>
>>>45...Ke5 46.Bc2 Kf4 47.Bb1 Bh2 48.Kf2 Bg1+ 49.Ke2 Kg3 50.Kf1
>>>Bf2 51.Bc2 f5 52.Bb1 f4 53.Bg6 Be3 54.Bc2 h5 55.Bf5 c5 56.Bg6
>>>h4 57.Bf5 g4 58.hxg4 h3 59.gxh3 Kxf3 60.g5 Kg3 61.g6 Bd4 62.h4
>>>f3 63.h5 Bg7 64.Ke1 f2+ 0-1
>>>
>>>From good old Albert Silver.
>>>
>>>anthony
>>
>>You're showing me how the game went!
>>My contention still is: "With Best Play, Black c-a-n-n-o-t force a Win!
>>It's a Draw!
>>I defy you or any Chess Program to force a Win to mate in this position!
>>I have eaten Crow before.. I like it with Cream & Sugar.
>>I also maintain, this is a position where Analysis Modules suck!
>>CY
>
>Wow!
>
>The important thing to understand is that two pawns vs zero pawns with opposite
>colored bishops is winning if the pawns have at least two files between them.
>
>Here, black is able to make the second passed pawn on the kingside by first
>putting all his pawns there on dark squares - f4, g5 & h4.
>
>The bishop sacrifices are cool - but maybe not necessary.
>
>Vas

Hi,
Thanks for your comments.
You are explaning how Black won in the game... I see that.
You miss my point however, i said:
"With Best Play, Black c-a-n-n-o-t force a Win!"

I stand by that; the Position is a Draw!
The Doubled pawns on the c file can never queen.
Black cannot make a passed pawn on the Kingside without intrusion by his King.
White prevents that.
Forget the Game!
Analyze the Position; that's the point of the discussion.
ok?
CY



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