Author: Anthony Cozzie
Date: 09:36:00 11/10/04
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On November 10, 2004 at 00:48:26, chandler yergin wrote: >On November 10, 2004 at 00:40:07, chandler yergin wrote: > >>On November 09, 2004 at 17:10:02, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >> >>>You are missing the point, Chandler. >>> >>>You probably played through the game with Shredder 8 on. >> >> >>I did NOT PLay through the game! >>I started on Black's move 10, turned on 'infinite analysis' >>3 lines. It found 11.a3 and 11.h5 almost immediatly. >>I decreased the 3rd line, and let the other two run. >>I then 'clipped' the analysis & Posted it. >>There was NO learning! >> >>So your assumption, along with Uli's and Ed's are incorrect! >>I can't make it any simpler. >>CY >> >>I did analyze the game later, and saved it. >> >> >> At that point, it >>>found that some of the positions it originally thought were good for black, were >>>in fact good for white, and it recorded them. You then returned to the initial >>>position, and boom! it has learned from its mistakes. >>> >>>What is the difference you ask? The point is that Shredder would not play those >>>moves on its own, without help from a human, without a very long time to search. >>> >>>anthony >> >>Try it yourself... >>Don't lock on one variation, >>Use 3 lines, start any place in the game.. >>Watch when you get to move 11. >>Clip analysis and please Post it. >>Thanks, >>CY > >Here's what it looks like: >Ed - Rebel 12 > [D]rnbq1rk1/pp1n1p1p/4p1p1/3pP1N1/1b1p1P1P/2NB4/PPP3P1/R1BQK2R w KQ - 0 1 > >Analysis by Hiarcs 8: > >1. ยต (-1.04): 11.a3 Ba5 12.b4 dxc3 13.h5 Bb6 14.Nxh7 Nxe5 15.fxe5 >2. -+ (-1.85): 11.h5 dxc3 12.b3 Be7 13.hxg6 fxg6 14.Bxg6 Bxg5 15.Bxh7+ Kg7 >16.fxg5 Nxe5 17.Qh5 >3. -+ (-3.43): 11.Bxg6 fxg6 12.Qxd4 Nc6 13.Qd2 Qe8 14.a3 Ba5 15.b4 Bb6 16.Bb2 > >(Yergin, MyTown 09.11.2004) > >Note, I used a different Engine, so there was NO learning! >I could have used 5 or 6 lines, and more Candidate moves would be evaluated. >If you limit it to one Variation; that's all you will see for hours and hours. >CY By that logic, I could put zappa in 50-best line mode and it would solve every test position ;) anthony
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