Author: chandler yergin
Date: 11:30:33 11/10/04
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On November 10, 2004 at 13:08:39, Uri Blass wrote: >On November 10, 2004 at 12:43:40, chandler yergin wrote: > >>Thank you for your input, and the Challenge. >> >>You can challenge me to the position after 1...Ke5 if you like, >> >>[D]8/2p5/5p1p/4kBp1/8/2p2PbP/4K1P1/8 w - - 0 2 >> >>Rather than go through a long thread; let me present a summary of my position, >>and clarify a few points. >> >>I use Analysis Modules as a tool. >>There are however, many positions that they do not understand, this I bel;ieve >>is one. >> >>I play Chess, I use Chess Programs as a tool. >>Do I trust them? >>Haa Haa.. No way! >> >>Now, from the Diagram, how can Black make progress? >>1. Queen a pawn on the C file >>2. Create a passed pawn on the Kingside >> >>Agreed? >> >>It's a simple matter of "Corresponding Squares". >> >>To Queen a pawn on the c file requires the support of the Black King. >>Agreed? >> >> >>When the Black King arrives at b2, the White King must be on d1 and his Bishop >>controls c2. Black cannot make progress. >> >>For the Black King to intrude on the Kingside he must intrude the position. >>Agreed? >> >>When the Black King arrives at g3 for example, the Corresponding Square for the >>White King is f1. >>Black cannot make progress, or create a passed pawn. >> >>Simple Chess! > >No > >It is not so simple. >black has passed pawn in the c file and can generate another one in the f file. > >black has passed pawns in 2 files in the c file and in the f file and white >cannot defend against both threats at the same time. > >The following position is also draw by your logic but it is not a draw. > >[D]8/8/7P/2p5/3b2k1/1Bp2p2/8/4K3 w - - 0 23 > > >> >>The Black and White Bishops just keep moving on their respective Diagonals >>and cannot affect the outcome. >> >>Please consider the Strategic evaluation, and not the Computer evaluations. >> >>Even IF, and a big IF, Black does happen, through a White mistake, end up with a >>passed Pawn on the h file, the White King simply moves to h1, and with the Black >>Bishop of the wrong color, again it's a Draw! > >No It is not a draw because black has 2 more pawns in the c file and even if >white sacrifice the bishop for one of them black has still one pawn in the c >file. > >if white king go to the c file black may promote the h pawn or force white to >sacrifice the bishop for it and it is again not a draw > >Uri You're right. I humbly Bow to the Silicon Monsters. Like ED said, Shredder 8 is from another Planet! As Spock would say.. "Fascinating!" As Seinfeld would say... "That's a shame..." ;) CY BTW a very interesting exercise.. Thanks to all for your participation! Cheers! I need Vodka now..excuse me.. CY
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